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did adam and Eve ever get forgiveness? |
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Matthew
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We know that the Angels were created by God and cannot be forgiven when they sin. Adam and Eve were also created by God-did they ever have a chance to be forgiven for their disobedience in the garden? |
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did adam and Eve ever get forgiveness? |
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Matthew
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Yes they did. Jesus tells us that God forgives us if we forgive others. Amen. Have a blessed day. |
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is there a specific scripture? |
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Matthew
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my view is that Adam and Eve were created in the same way God created the angels-so why are they treated differently than the angels and what scripture are you using to say yes? Or were the angels created diffrently than man what scripture?
I'm not looking for an opinion but would like to know if we can find this answer in the Word.Thanks. |
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is there a specific scripture? |
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Matthew
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I see no where in Scripture where we are told how the angels were created. In Genesis 2 we are told how God created Adam and Eve (2:7). The Bible is silent on God's dealing with the angels. The focus of the Bible is God's dealing with men and women-mankind sinners. The Bible does not tell us much about the angels, but we do know much about man. The only Scripture that comes to my mind on the difference between men and angels is Hebrews 2:1-18-in these verses we are told that God created man/Adam "a little while lower than the angels"-Adam was called to be the crown of creation-we know the story of the Adamic Fall-as we read Redemptive History the Son of God came-became flesh-the Lord Jesus Christ the Second Adam (Romans 5)-Jesus Christ as the Second Adam "because of the suffering death crowned with glory and honor" Hebrews 2:9 Christ's by His Cross Death was given all authority on earth and heaven-He has restored man once again as sovereign over the created order-notice not angels-in the eternal state angels will be servants to redeemed glorified humanity (Hebrews 1:6,7). It seems from Scripture that due to the work of Christ the Elect are higher than the elect angels (Hebrews 1:14) |
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Thanks for answering the ques. on magic. |
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Matthew
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Thanks for the answer on magic in the church. I had a young Christian lady ask me about it..I told her that I thought it was wrong..thanks for reasuring me. Kentuckywoman2 |
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is there a specific scripture? |
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Matthew
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Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us. Faith is knowing that we are forgiven. By grace we are forgiven. |
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is there a specific scripture? |
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Matthew
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I don't know of any particular verse that describes angles, but some things can be inferred from the Bible. First, we were created with flesh bodies, we can't drop them and pick them up again (I mean the physical nature of flesh); angels seemingly can, they are all around us and at times show themselves to us, so they are not flesh in the sense we are flesh (and, for that matter, when they show themselves they may not be flesh at all, but they may simply open our eyes to the spiritual realm). So, I would interpret the Bible as saying that angels are not made like man, they are spiritual beings; whereas, man was created from dust (flesh) and our spirits were "breathed" into us from GOD. We also know that angels have the power of choice; because many angels "chose" to follow lucifer (satan) in his revolt. However, they may have more knowledge and understanding of GOD than we do, because they are offered no salvation, so they know the consequences of their actions, whereas, we sin against GOD, often, in ignorance. All these statements can be "inferred" from the Word. The first two statements are rock solid, the third may not be, GOD will show mercy to whom He will show mercy. So, the fact that the angels are not offered salvation, doesn't mean they know more about GOD. But, they do live with Him in heaven and hover around His throne, so it's a good bet.
By the way, where did you get the idea that angels were made in the same way as man? |
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is there a specific scripture? |
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Matthew
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God forgives. God forgives angels, Adam and Eve, and everyone. Faith is knowing that God forgives through grace. The Scripture is Matthew and the Sermon on the Mount. Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us. |
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Divine Healing, True or False? |
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Matthew
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I've caught the broadcasts for Benny Hinn and John Hagee this week, and it seems they are both speaking about 'Divine Healing'. Does anyone know if there is Scripture to support this theology? And, what about the 'Prosperity Gospel', any Scriptural documentation? Please give me your opinion! |
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Divine Healing, True or False? |
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Matthew
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let me ask you a Question the Centurion who had more faith than anyone in israel,except Jesus.Math 8:8. Did his servent recieve Divine healing? and then there are all the others that came to Jesus as proxies for healing for family members.so it must be scriptural.Part 2;prosperity comes with God ,the Blessing of Abraham.Deut 28.But what we some times forget is that it is for Gods purposes not our own selfish ones.James 4:3.YIC, The bible also states ,if you delight your self in the Lord then He shall give you the desires of your heart. |
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did adam and Eve ever get forgiveness? |
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wel good thought .this is only my opinion but i will try and back it up using scripture.When did Adam and Eve repent? they didnt. they were sorry later on ,i believe. using David and Hezekiah as examples when David sinned he repented and the Lord blessed him .When Hezikiah was sick and dying, the prophet came to him and told him to get his things sorted out as he was going to die. Hezikiah fasted and repented and the prophet turned back as the Lord relented and Gave Hezikiah another 15 years of life.when the Lord has pronounced Judgment on some one i believe if repentance comes straight away the Lord will relent.look at Moses, he never repented he just accepted Gods judgement, and also Ninevah and Jonah.YIC |
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Did Jesus ever condemn any 1 n the Bible |
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In the Bible, did Jesus Christ ever condemn a sinner, or ANYONE for that matter? Thank you. I would like specific verse(s). |
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Did Jesus ever condemn any 1 n the Bible |
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no He did not condemn anyone at all. even judas was allowed to eat the last meal with Him and Jesus even told judas to go and do what was in his heart.all in LOVE,YIC. |
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Did Jesus ever condemn any 1 n the Bible |
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Jesus Himself said in John 3:17 that God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. The reason Christ did not condemn anyone is because they (and we) were ALREADY condemned. Vs. 18 makes this clear, 'He who believes in Him is not condemned; he who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.'
This is similar to asking, did Jesus Christ ever save a believer? A believer is already saved. A sinner is already condemned because he is born dead in trespasses and sins. He came to save us from condemnation. One doesn't condemn something that is already condemned (no double whammy). Now, as believers, Romans 8:1 assures us that there is no condemnation for us. Why? Because Christ took it on the cross. The condemnation we deserve (spiritual death), He took. And the eternal life we don't deserve, He freely gives on the basis of faith. Pretty good deal, huh? |
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Did Jesus ever condemn any 1 n the Bible |
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John 16:7-11 ASV (1901) Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I go, I will send him unto you. And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they believe not on me; of righteousness, because I go to the Father, and ye behold me no more; of judgment, because the prince of this world hath been judged. |
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Divine Healing? |
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Matthew
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Sorry, I have, once again, failed to clarify my question. There is a 'theology' out in the charismatic world of Christianity today that says no christian has to be sick. They say that it is ALWAYS GOD's will for christians to be healthy, and if you're sick you must be doing something wrong. So, the conclusion is that all christians can receive a healing, if they have enough faith and do everything else that GOD wants them to do, this idea is what I was phrasing as Divine Healing. Do you believe in this idea? Do you know of any Scripture that would support it?
The same movement is unearthing the idea that GOD is about to pour a financial anointing on believers, and we are going to be rich, so that GOD will be able to use our tithes. This message usually comes with a request for a 'seed' of faith to start the harvest of wealth. Is there anything is Scripture to support this idea? Please express your (everyone!!) opinion!! GOD bless!! |
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Divine Healing? |
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Matthew
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1 Cor 11:28-31
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
John 9:1-3
1 Now as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
2 And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
3 Jesus answered, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him.
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Divine Healing? |
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sorry yes i believe it is possible as Jesus did it for us ,walked in health.Isaiah 53 He became poor that we might become rich.deut 28 the blessing of abraham is available to us. Do a study of the blessing in the new testament.we are heirs. also Malachi 3:10. and PSalm 23is about prospering. YIC. |
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Divine Healing? |
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I appreciate these Scriptures, but they do not speak to the idea of divine healing in the purest sense (All sickness and disease has been conquered at the cross, therefore, we have a divine right to claim healing. And, if we are not healed, our faith is not strong enough). Paul said, 'many', not all and he was talking to the corinthians specifically; he does not share the same sentiment with anyone else in Scripture. Do you believe that all sickness is judgement from GOD, and is it all avoidable? And, can we 'name it and claim it' when it comes to healings and prosperity? |
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Divine Healing? |
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First of all one must understand the purpose of the Holy Spirit being sent forth, it was sent forth to bare witness to truth, threw powerful works, in other words its to prove who Gods true ministers are and true disciples of that ministry and those powerful works are the gifts of the Spirit- Healings, prophesying, tongues, and so on. This is why you don’t see many of those works today, God said concerning are days there would be no truth, that’s why he’s sending forth another profit in are day, to set all things strait and these are his days, in a short time he will be sent forth, but when he comes the worlds ministry will declare him evil, because he comes forth in the same manner as the antichrist, appearing to be the antichrist, because he will teach against the worlds ministry, this is why I made the comment about Moses and the Israelites, majority doesn’t always mean truth. As fare as faith healings God dos permit faith healing in curtain instances to build and maintain faith, other wise faith would have be lost as well as truth |
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A Hebrew Version of Matthew? |
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I read somewere that Matthew may have been written in Hebrew, and translated into Greek. Is this the case? |
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A Hebrew Version of Matthew? |
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Greetings:
There are ancient traditions that Matthew wrote either a Gospel or a collection of sayings in Hebrew. Here are the relevant quotes.
1) Papias wrote, "Matthew composed the Logia in the Hebrew tongue and everyone interpreted them as he was able." (Cited by Eusebius, HE, iii. 39. 16.)
2) Irenaeus wrote, "Now Matthew published also a book of the Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching the gospel in Rome and founding the Church." (Cited by Eusebius, HE, v. 8. 2.)
3) According to Eusebius, Pantaenus went to India and found that the Gospel of Matthew was already there in Hebrew. (HE, v. 10).
4) Finally, Origen stated that Matthew had composed a Gospel in Hebrew. (J. Munck in Neotestamentica et Patristica, 1962, pp. 249-260).
There are several reasons why these statements are traditionally discounted.
1) Most people believe that the Gospels are late compostions. However, if these statements are true, then Matthew may have been written before Peter and Paul were killed, not hundreds of years after the death of Christ as so many want to believe.
2) Most scholars today believe that Mark was written first and that Matthew and Luke used Mark and an unknown document Q to compose their Gospels. However, if Matthew wrote in Hebrew and early, then it is unlikely that Mark was first, since Mark was most likely written with Peter's help. Some have tried to say that maybe this Hebrew Gospel was Q.
These quotes are a fascinating study and further evidence that the Gospels were probably written much earlier than scholars commonally believe.
I hope this answers your question.
Tim Moran |
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if we know somebody has a problem with |
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Could you explain Matt. 5:23-24 and Matt. 18:15? are they telling us to ignore people we have differences with or confront them? |
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if we know somebody has a problem with |
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Matt 5 is saying that if we suddenly remember that another person feels something against us we are to leave our gift at the alter and go and attempt to straighten things out with the person. If we don't we will not feel the consciousness of His pleasure in us and our gift until we have obeyed His commands first.
In Matt 18 Jesus is saying that when there is hard feelings between a brother and a sister it can lead to disunity and spiritual weakness in the church. Therefore if another has wronged you or the church without cause, your work is to draw that one back to God, by love, by realizing that you too are tempted and sin. Your actions should never be to ignore but to win that person back to personal fellowship and fellowship with God. |
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if we know somebody has a problem with |
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We are not to ignore those we have differences with, but, we are to ask for and grant forgiveness.
Prayon is basically correct. In Matthew 5 we are the one who offended, so we must ask for forgiveness.
In chapter 18, something is bothering us that another did. We want the relationship restored. But, if this one, like the man in 1 Cor 5, does not want to do his part ... he needs to leave the church. Else, there will be disunity.
Steve
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Thanks for answering the ques. on magic. |
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Good idea that you brought it here before the Forum so that we could help to 'reassure you'! Hope to see you on the Forum again, Kentuckywoman2! |
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How many guards? in Matthew 27:65 |
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Matthew
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How many guards? in Matthew 27:65 |
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How many guards? in Matthew 27:65 |
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Matthew
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I would say 1. It says "you have a guard...: |
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How many guards? in Matthew 27:65 |
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Matthew
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One is possible, but, it could of been more. In 28:11, it is plural and verse 12 says them. |
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How many guards? in Matthew 27:65 |
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Hello again Steve,
Matthew's Gospel is the only one that mentions a guard that was posted by the tomb. In Matthew 27:65, Pilate says, "Take a guard."
What is a Roman guard?
I am convinced that this Roman 'guard' is a guard of Roman soldiers (plural). This would explain the presence of more than one soldier (v. 4, 11-12) and the assignment of only one guard (27:65-66) to guard the tomb.
--Nolan
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