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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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How can a just God use wicked Babylon to punish a people more righteous than themselves? |
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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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Habakkuk
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Who do you suggest that He use? The angels? That Israel was more righteous than the Babylonians is not borne out in scripture. Indeed they were more guilty before God than Babylon, because they had His laws, the prophets, the priests, everything needed to put them in a right relationship with Him. All of which they ignored. All of which they used to rationalize their disobedience. After all God would surely not destroy His own temple, he surely would not allow the heathen to capture the Ark of the Covenant. That He would use nations that were ungodly was a further rebuke to the Israelites who considered themselves above the other nations and holding such an exalted position in God's eyes that God wouldn't bring them to account for their sins. They didn't really believe that He is no respecter of persons, or nations. |
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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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Fantastic answer Fatherchuck, I would like to add there is something we need to keep in find. When Israel went into captivity even the righteous among them suffered. Daniel and the three Hebrew children, who from the book of Daniel we know were righteous, were forced into slavery and made eunuchs.
We as people can not just ignore the our antics of our leaders and say let God deal with them. The leaders in Israel is what lead Israel on the road to decline read 1 and 2 Kings.
Ed |
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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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Habakkuk
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The last word of the first sentence should be mind not find in my previous update. I was so proud of myself I checked and double checked and was sure I caught all my errors. I stand humble once again!
Ed |
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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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Habakkuk
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Excellent answer, fatherchuck! This verse comes to mind:
"but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more." Luke 12:48
Nolan |
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Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel? |
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Habakkuk
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Hello Ed,
Why be humbled? You made a good point, Good insight! Personally I would be in trouble without spellchek. |
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any previous note on book of Habakkuk |
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Habakkuk
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any previous note on book of Habakkuk |
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any previous note on book of Habakkuk |
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Habakkuk
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Yes, agape,
There was a previous note on the book of Habakkuk. The thread is entitled, "Why Babylon to punish righteous Israel?".. You can find it if you go to "Questions/Notes on Whole Books" and select the pull down for Habakkuk, and then scroll down the page to find it.
Your Brother in Christ,
Nolan |
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HABAKKUK CHAP1-3 |
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Habakkuk
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WHAT DID HABAKKUK MEAN IN HIS WORD FROM THE ALMIGHTY GOD |
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HABAKKUK CHAP1-3 |
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Habakkuk
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Duplicate posting. |
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Is it ok to question God after a tragety |
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Is it ok to question God after a tragety? |
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Is it ok to question God after a tragety |
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What do you mean by "question God"? Do you mean question His existence, or rather question why He allowed the tragedy to occur?
We do not see the questioning of God's existence or attributes as an option in Scripture:
'The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds;
There is no one who does good.'
--Psalm 14:1
However, we see in many places in Scripture where believers in God question why He is allowing things to happen that do not seem to fit with His character. For example, the prophet Habakkuk knows what God is like, about His goodness and His faithfulness. However, he asks the following question:
"How long, O LORD, will I call for help,
And You will not hear?
I cry out to You, "Violence!"
Yet You do not save."
--Habakkuk 1:2
Habakkuk receives an answer, and I would encourage you to read it to understand a little more how God foreordains tragedy to serve His purposes. Other good passages to read are Psalm 89 and the book of Job to see the various ways in which believers in God question him, out of anguish and not seeing the whole picture like God does. What is common in all of these situations, however, is that the questioning is done from a faith in and understanding of God's character, rather than a doubting of God's providence. We see that kind of questioning with the Israelites in the wilderness, and God does not like that kind of questioning at all.
For a better understanding of suffering and tragedy and why God allows it, I would point you to James 1 and Romans 5 and 2 Peter 1 for a biblical understanding of it. We may not have all of the answers in a given situation, because God hasn't revealed all the specifics to us in every situation; but we know that what we read in the Bible about God's chracter is 100 percent reliable, and that Romans 8:28 applies to the believer no matter what, as does 1 Peter 1:3-5.
Hope this helps set you on the road to addressing your tragedy with God. Question God based on what you know about Him, but realize that Scripture is the place to find the answers. Lastly, remember that God is not required to fill us in on every last detail of what He is doing in creation, but we can trust Him to do what is holy and true and perfect.
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Habakkuk vs. Other Prophets |
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How does the book of Habakkuk differ from other prophetic works? |
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Habakkuk vs. Other Prophets |
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Hello chron1410
Habakkuk complains that the people have become wicked, and God is not doing anything to turn His people around. The message is that God will judge using the Babylonians.
There is a promise that the Babylonians will be judged later.
Steve |
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HABAKKUK CHAP1-3 |
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Hab 2:4
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WHAT DID HABAKKUK MEAN IN HIS WORD FROM THE ALMIGHTY GOD |
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Hab 2:4
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Behold, as for the proud one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4
The best-known verse in Habakkuk is 2:4, "the righteous will live by his faith" (quoted in Rom. 1:17; Gal. 3:11; Heb. 10:38). It is the heart of God's answer to Habakkuk's questions. |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Hab 2:5
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Where can I find in the Bible about alcohol and drugs? I want to know if they are a sin. |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Hab 2:5
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Greetings B. Burnette!
Proverbs 23:29-35 contains an excellent illustration to the destructiveness of 'lingering long over wine.'
Other verses that have to do with drinking are Habakkuk 2:5, Joel 1:5, Hosea 4:18, Ezekiel 44:21, Jeremiah 13:12-14, Ephesians 5:18.
As for drugs, the only verses that I could find was where Jesus refused a "drug" in Matthew 27:34 and Mark 15:23.
Blessings to you,
Nolan |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Hi, B.;
I believe that the only form of alcohol that the Bible speaks of is wine, the product of a natural process of fermentation. I would conclude that if the Bible "approves" of any form of alcohol or drugs, it would be wine.
However, concerning all substnaces that can impair judgment or behavior, I think of Jesus' words: 'If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.' (Matthew 5:29-30) I don't think my eye or my hand can cause me to sin, but drugs and alcohol can. If they do, better to throw them away.
Peace and grace,
Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Nolan, I'm confused with your answer. I need your help. Jesus's first miracle was in John 2:1-10. Jesus comes to this wedding. It says that there were six waterpots which held 2 to 3 firkens per pot of water. After filling them to the brim, Jesus says to draw them out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. When the ruler of the feast tasted the water that was made into wine he knew not whence it was: but the servants that drew the water knew. When the governor of the feast called the bridgroom, he said unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. I don't understand, but from what the governor says, that everyone at this wedding are already drunk. Jesus is bringing the best wine last, so because everyone is already drunk, wont they be gusling this wine when they shouldn't be drinking at all according to my understanding of your answer. I don't want to misunderstand. I would appreciate your imput. In the Father's Love, Serenetime |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Greetings Serenetime!
In my answer to B. Burnette, I believe that they were asking for Scriptures that prohibited the use of alcohol or drugs. Granted, there are many Scriptures that we can look at that would serve to justify the consumption of alcoholic beverages, but I wanted to provide ample Scripture for their prohibition since I felt that by doing so I would be able to provide a good answer to B. Burnette's question.
I am not saying that it is absolutely a sin to consume alcohol, I was only providing Scripture verses that would "justify" a prohibition from alcohol and drugs.
I hope this clears it up!
- Nolan |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Nolan, Hi again. Pertaining to your last note to me. I wanted to show you why I was confused. That in Prov. 23:29-35, and in Hab. 2:5, Joel 1:5, Hosea 4:18, Jeremiah 13:12-14, which you gave as an answers for drinking alcohol being a sin to B. Burnette that from my understanding of these verses that they pertain to the cup of wrath prophesized of the coming of King Nebachadnezzar, and is an example of how the people would not listen and believe his coming. He as you know is a type of antichrist. Because they would not hear the truth he would send them a strong delusion (cup of wrath). Just like I believe it shows in the book of Revelations of the coming Antichrist, which will also send a strong delusion (cup of wrath),to believe a lie. In Rev. 14:8, And there followed another angel saying, Babylon has fallen, is fallen, that great city because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. In Ezek.44:21 which you also gave as an example, it says Neither shall any priest drink wine, when they enter into the inner court. This is for the priests only. As far as the original question goes, a clear interpretation for me to see is to use Eph.5:18 it says,And be not drunk with wine wherein in excess; but be filled with the Spirit. In Deut 29:6 This a good example of not drinking wine or strong drink. They were on a type of probation. It says, You have not eaten bread, neither have ye drunk wine or strong drink: that ye might know that I am the LORD you God. In Ruth 3:7 it says And when Boaz had eaten and drunk, and his heart was merry, he went to lie down at the end of the heap of corn: and she (Ruth) came softly, and uncovered his feet, and laid her down. This is a great example of being seduced. What it comes down to is that like anything we should not drink too much, and keep our faculties in tact. So we can remain safe for ourselves and others. There are many other verses having to do with drinking. Drinking alcohol to an excess is a sin as you can see, because you can hurt yourself and other's who are innocent. But it is also a sin to tell someone they cannot drink wine at all, because Jesus brought it as a wedding gift. Thanks for your time, and if there is any other verses that you feel can clarify this better, it would be a benefit to all. IN the Father's Love, Serenetime |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Greetings Serenetime!
May I butt in? I have posted on this issue before if you would like to read some of them search for "wine" and "Morant61".
The reason I interrupted is because I hear so many Christians say that it is okay to drink, but not to excess. I have a practical problem with that view. How much is excess?
Suppose, as a pastor, I have someone come to me and ask how much they can drink? What do I tell them? Does God go by Indiana State Law? A blood alcohol level of .08 is drunk, but .07 is not!
I'm not trying to be funny, but it strikes me that drinking in excess is wrong, but we never know at what point we have reached excess.
Your Brother in Christ,
Tim Moran |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Hello Mr. Jones,
Please see the Bible talks about alcohol other than wine in Luke 1:15.
Luke 1:15 - For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. (KJV)
Please note that "strong drink" in Greek is sikera, meaning any intoxicating drink not from grapes.
FYI, Peace in Faith and Hope, Casiv |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Thank You Serenetime,
I Love to here your voice, show us the way in Love so that we all can Love again.
Peace in Faith and Hope and the Love of the Father and His Children, Casiv |
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What scripture talks about alcohol |
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Hab 2:5
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Thanks, Casiv;
You are absolutely right. I had forgotten about references to "strong drink".
Peace and grace,
Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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