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What is the word "Abaddon" referring to? |
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Job 26:6
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What is the word "Abaddon" referring to? |
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What is the word "Abaddon" referring to? |
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Job 26:6
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Greetings Nolan!
The word "Abaddon" seems to be most likely a synonym for "Sheol." Hebrew prose tends to use a lot of duplicate words with the same meaning in conjuction with each other. "Abaddon" only occurs 6 times in the Old Testament. Twice it is used with "Sheol." Twice it is used with "Grave."
Therefore, "Abbandon" probably refers to a place of destruction (lit. the grave or hell).
Your Brother in Christ,
Tim Moran |
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What is the word "Abaddon" referring to? |
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Job 26:6
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Greetings brother Tim! I appreciate the information and feedback on 'obscure proper nouns of the Bible' :) (ex. Abaddon, Wormwood).. Thank you and you have proven to be a very helpful and delightful brother on the Forum! Your brother in Christ,Nolan Keck |
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Should a Christian be a Mason? |
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Bible general Archive 1
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! the Mason's or a higher order of the Mason's - the Shriners are a very secretive organization that proclaim, do and say things that are not consistant with the bible. I will give two examples, although there are many.
BOUND BY BLOOD OATHS
From the initiation rituals of the "BLUE LODGES" and through all 33 degrees of Freemasonry, every Mason in the world is bound by bloody oaths to maintain the secrets of the Lodge. These binding oaths are kept through the spirit of fear, because the penalties for betraying the
brethren of the lodge include serious physical harm to the Mason. Look at them from the perspective of Christ's admonition. The oath sworn by the Entered Apprentice or first degree:
"binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, at low water mark." The Master Mason swears,"under no less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scatter before the four winds of heaven" (Duncan's Ritual of Freemasonry, 3rd Ed., pp. 35 396, David McKay Pub., New York, NY)
THE KING OF THE PIT OF HELL
In the seventeenth degree of the Scottish Rite, or The Knights of the East and West Degree, after the candidates have completed the initiation they are given the secret password, Jubulum, and the Sacred Word, Abaddon. Here is the clue to the true identity of the Masonic Deity. It is revealed in the "Sacred Word" of this ritual, "Abaddon." In Revelation 9:11, we learn that "they [the demons and workers from hell] had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon!" Again, I must ask, "How could any true Christian dare to take upon himself that evil name as a sacred word?"
the above came from information on a site called www.ericbarger.com/home2.htm
I encourage all interested in learning more to visit the site, go to the search engine and type in Masons. I have not even touched the surface. prayon |
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Original language of Revelation |
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Revelation
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"Here's a few differences in how the Greek and Aramaic versions of Revelation read:
Rev 2:22 "I will cast her into the COFFIN."
The original Aramaic word here is spelled Ayin, Resh Sammekh Alef and can be translated as either "coffin" or "bed". "Bed" appears in the Greek text, but perhaps "coffin" makes more sense. Why would he throw her on a bed with her companions? Note Rev 2:23 says "I will kill her sons..." Why would God's judgement be to kill her sons and not kill her...but just throw her on a bed? Beds are where nice things happen - rest, relaxation....this is clearly a judgement, not a free pass to a spa. It's also easy to see how this could have been translated from Aramaic to Greek the way it was.
Rev 10:1 Greek - "and His FEET were like pillars of fire" Aramaic - "and His LEGS were like pillars of fire".
The Aramaic word for "legs" here can mean legs or feet or both. But since they are compared to "pillars", "legs" is probably a better translations. So we see how the imagery of the Aramaic version makes more sense.
Rev 1:15 strongly suggests an Aramaic origin to Revelation: Greek - "...And his feet were were like brass (calko) burnished (libano) as if in a furnace, glowing/afire."
Now the KJV translates "libano" as "burnished", but the word has no real meaning in Greek. It's actually a Hebrew/Aramaic word.
Aramaic has two possible translations... "...And his feet were in the form of the Lebanese brass that is burned in a furnace" "...And his feet were in the form of the whitening brass that is burned in a furnace" The first is the most common, while the second is an arguably possible
translation.
When brass is burned in a furnace, it turns white. "Lebanon" in Hebrew/Aramaic shares roots with the Hebrew word for "to make white". It could be saying the brass is from Lebanon or it could be using this to say the brass is turning white.
The same descrepency also appears in Rev 2:18. The Greek text is definitely using a Hebrew/Aramaic word - no question about it. A Hebrew/Aramaic word just simply suddenly appears in the middle of this otherwise Greek sentence. It would appear that when Revelation was translated from Aramaic to Greek, they simply transliterated this word instead of finding a Greek equivalent. Perhaps the translators did not know what it meant, so they just transliterated it. One problem with Aramaic is that it is a rather fluid language with several dialects, and the Greek traslators may not have known the dialect they were translating from, but only had info on a close, but not identical dialect of Aramaic.
Rev 9:11 Aramaic - "...whose name in Hebrew is 'Avadu' and in Aramaic 'Sh'ra'" Greek - "...whose name in Hebrew is 'Abaddon' and in Greek 'Apollyon'"
Rev 8:2 says the angels were given 7 Shofars -indicating what type of trumpet it was. The Torah discusses the Shofar made from a Ram's horn as well as silver trumpets. These two types of trumpets were used for different purposes in different times. So the fact that the Aramaic text could be telling us what kind of trumpet this was is significant in that this is lost in the Greek version.
Now there's other subtleties that come through in the Aramaic that don't come through in the Greek. For example, when Jesus said He was the "Alef
and the Tau", there's something hinted here that doesn't come through by translating this as "Alpha and Omega" or "A and the Z". Alef and Tau spell the word "ET" in Hebrew, which has an important grammatical usage that parallels Jesus's atonement in a spiritual way.
Genesis 1:1 says... "In the beginning God created it; the heavens and the earth"
This is probably the most literal way you could translate "ET". "ET" here is translated as the word "it". When an indirect object appears in a
Hebrew sentence, it has to be preceeded by the word "ET", spelled Alef Tau. So it takes the place of an indirect object and must come before it. Now just as "ET" takes the place of an indirect object, Jesus took our place on the cross, and He had to come before us!
Praise Him forevermore!!!!"
part 2 of 2 (Taken from a thesis of the authorship of Revelation from my friend who is a Messianic Jew) |
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The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 |
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Genesis
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Dear Tim,
Also, I believe we don't have to worry about angels coming back and having kids again because the full term of pregnancy is 9 months and they only have 5 months.
Rev 9:3-5
3 And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months.
(from New International Version)
Rev 9:7-11
7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8 Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. 9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. 10 They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.
(from New International Version)
Bless you,
Love Fountain |
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satan came to kill steal. |
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John 10:10
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Thief implies deception and trickery, robber implies violence and destruction. These take away life, Jesus gives life, and He gives it abundantly
But hey, satan ranks right up there too.
Here are some names of satan;
Abaddon, Rev 9:11
Accuser, Rev 12:10
Adversary, or Enemy, 1Pe 5:8
Angel of the Abyss, Rev 9:11
Apollyon, Rev 9:11
Belial, 2Co 4:4
Beelzebub, Mt 12:24
Devil, Mt 4:1
God of this Age, 2Co 4:4
Murderer, Jn 8:44
Prince of Demons, Mt 12:44
Ruler of the Kingdom of the Air, Eph 2:2
Prince of this World, Jn 14:30
Ruler of Darkness, Eph 6:12
Serpent, Ge 3:4
Tempter, Mt 4:3
Unclean Spirit, Mt 12:43
Evil One, Mt 13:19
Yes there are many more, God Bless You. |
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Do ALL demons have names? |
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Bible general Archive 1
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Would you then say then, as a result of your answer, that Apollyon is a good angel or didn't this one come to your attention?
Rev. 9:11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
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