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Results from: Answers, Notes
On or After: Sun 02/17/08 ordered by Date
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 12:59pm |
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Are only those who agree with your particular interpretation of Scripture welcome to share their views on this forum?
Believe me, John, I would've loved to have studied the Bible with fellow Christ-followers on this forum. But I've not yet met any Christ-followers on this forum.
I say this to your shame.
PRAY FOR YOUR OWN EYES
The greatest thing you folks can take away from this brief, but volatile experience is the understanding that God (very well could have) sent me here in order to show you where you fall short. Who knows how many innocent people you folks have offended before I came along. And I think it's fair to say that God doesn't want you to offend anyone, anymore. So (it's very possible that) He sent me here to make you aware of what you're doing and the influence you're having on others, in the hopes that you will stop and correct it.
GOD'S PRESENCE
This place should be a place of love, first and foremost, John. If it's not, then God is not in this place.
And that's absolutely Scriptural, even though I didn't quote Scripture. You'll find where I got that idea, if you search for it diligently.
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 12:42pm |
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Do you understand the doctrine of the Fruit of the Spirit? |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 12:33pm |
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Hank, the reaction I've seen on this forum reminds me of the reaction the Jews had to Jesus.
When He told them, "unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you," I can imagine them crying out, "That 's just Your opinion! Let's see You back it up with Scripture!"
Or, when Jesus did quote Scripture, and asked them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, "You are gods"'?" I can imagine them accusing Christ of twisting the Scripture to fit His own beliefs.
But, in reality, Jesus rarely quoted where in the Scriptures He drew His information from, in order to "prove" His teaching to His audience. Why? Because 1) His audience knew the Scriptures and probably recognized where He drew His information from, and 2) because it wasn't His job to spoon feed them and tell them where to find everything.
Do you recall the praise given to the Bereans? What made them more noble than those in Thessalonica? For no other reason than because "they searched the Scriptures daily to see if what Paul said was true." They didn't ask him to "prove" his references. They searched for themselves.
I have been accused on this site of having not quoted Scripture. But, nearly every sentence I've written has been inferred from one Scripture or another. Which means the people on this forum do not know the Scriptures well enough to recognize where I've drawn my information from, or they are too lazy to search the Scriptures and find out for themselves if what I'm saying is true.
So far, Hank, I have found nothing on this forum but judgment and condemnation and accusation - which are qualities associated in Scripture with the character of Satan.
So far, the responders to my posts have relied on their own opinions, on ancient stupid-stitions, and historical myth-conceptions. It probably wouldn't take long to expose a deeper root of anti-Semitism, as well.
One member actually lied to me regarding Forum Policy in order to threaten me with expulsion. Both lies and threats are devices used by the devil... and yet, others applauded him for using those devices.
So, I am not convinced that "this forum holds to the doctrine of sola Scriptura." It seems more to me that that they hold to their opinions of what they want Scripture to teach. They strain at the gnat and swallow the camel. They point out the speck in another's eye and miss the plank in their own. They say, but they do not do. And I am sorry to have made their acquaintance.
So, you can have your little clique, Hank. I want no part of a community that stands so firmly opposed to the character of Christ.
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Others more important than yourself |
Answer |
Luke 17:7 |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 11:41am |
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Hi, refump...
Welcome to the forum!
The words of Scripture all have a specific historical and grammatical context. We humans have a natural bent which seeks self-promotion, a root motive our hearts; i.e., we have a masters mindset. Instead, we are to adopt of servants mindset. Consequently, the words are addressed to people with a master mindset, helping us to understand the servants mindset, a fundamental characteristic of our Savior.
Scripture never calls us to simply act out its commands. Rather, it calls us to a change of root motivations of the heart. A radical change to the fundamental nature of the heart (Luke 6:43-45), something only God can effect in us. Even in the passage you cited, Paul is giving us a mandate of attitude. Fruit is always a manifestation of a plant's DNA (Matthew 7:16-20). Our external behavior is always a visible manifestation of internal realities. Therefore, if these things are true to us, then our actions will be consistent with that belief.
In Him, Doc |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
humbledbyhisgrace |
Sat 05/17/08, 10:28am |
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Thank you for your kind words John!
I know you know me well enough to know my heart on the matter.
I'm always dumbfounded how one is offended by God's word. Isn't it interesting it's always the ones who never point to it that are offended by it?
Of course it may be I need to do better in expressing myself also so as not to offend. It is not my intent but I will admit, there is so much false teaching in the world today it disgust me. Especially that which is subtle and comes covered in sugar!
Steve |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
humbledbyhisgrace |
Sat 05/17/08, 10:10am |
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GC,
My concern was for you and for all those who would read your post. It is not meant to offend you. But rather point you to scripture! I was not addressing the homosexual issue. That has already been addressed. Scripture is clear on this also.
GC, be honest with yourself, look at your post again and tell us what scripture will confirm what you are teaching? So far all we have is your opinion which does not line up with scripture. Can you see the danger in this?
My "agenda" was to point you to the truth (John 17:17). I have no ability to convince anyone but I know the word of God does (Hebrews 4:12, Isaiah 55:11, Romans 10:17).
Galatians 4:16 (NASB) "So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?"
Steve
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Answer |
NT general |
BMyers |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:26am |
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Welcome Mr. C,
I have just been reading through the post and seen that several members who have given you scripture to adequately support the Bible's view of homosexuality and sin.
To answer the question if God loves the sinner, and He does (otherwise we would all be in trouble (Romans 3:23). How do we know that God loves the sinner, John 3:14-21
JN 3:14 “As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
JN 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
JN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
JN 3:17 “For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
JN 3:18 “ He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
JN 3:19 “This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
JN 3:20 “ For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
JN 3:21 “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
As we can see Jesus didn't come to condemn us, but save us. The 'fall of man' has already condemned us to death.
RO 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Does your son have to give up homosexuality to get saved? No (everyone put down the stones). Yet, once your son is saved, he will start walking in the light and the old sinful nature will be washed away. He will be a new creature in Christ and his lifestyle must reflect this change.
Let me give you an old example, but one that I like. You take a bath to get clean; you don't get clean and then take a bath.
Currently your son is a slave to the sinful nature of man. He cannot change himself. How many people have you seen that have tried to make themselves a 'better' person but failed. The power to change from one's sinful nature is not something we have in use, but comes from the grace of the Almighty God through His son Jesus Christ and we are empowered by the working of the Holy Spirit in our life.
Jesus never asked a sinner to clean-up their act before he offered to change them, but once He changed them, He told them to go and sin no more (John 8:11).
God loves your son more than you do (which is hard concept to grasp). I've tried to figure out how God could love my own daughter more than I do yet when I remember how he sent His Son to die for my daughter the concept slowly sinks in.
Thank God for His willingness to love me even when I was a sinner. Now I'm a blood bought child of God. Am I perfect? No and I still make mistakes, but I work hard with the help of the Holy Spirit (John 16:7-11) to try to walk in the light.
To summarize the post, God loves us all and does hate the sin and the destruction that it brought upon His creation. You don't have to get 'cleaned up' to become a child of God, but once you start 'your bath' the old nature must go. Your son’s lifestyle of homosexuality is an abomination to God, but he still loves your son.
Prayer for your son and yourself that the Holy Spirit will work in your son’s heart and give you the words of wisdom you need to guide him from the darkness into the light of Christ.
Brad
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Making a Vain Show |
Note |
Jer 7:8 |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:17am |
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"Oh, that I might live to see that day when professors shall not walk in vain show; when they shall please themselves no more with a name to live, being spiritually dead; when they shall no more (as many of them now are) be a company of frothy, vain, and unserious persons, but the majestic beams of holiness shining from their heavenly and serious conversation shall awe the world, and command reverence from all who are about them; when they shall warm the hearts of those who come nigh them, so that men shall say, 'God is truly in these men!'" --John Flavel |
| 9 |
God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:09am |
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Son, you're not doing much for your case. I didn't say decry, whinge, accuse, and opine... I said calm, careful, honest, logical, and Scriptural.
Do you understand the doctrine of sola Scriptura? |
| 10 |
God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
stjohn |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:04am |
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Hello, gospelcompilation: I am truly sorry that you are offended, but, Brother Steve has tried to direct you to a proper understanding of the Word of God, with the Word of God. My dear friend, giving out the Word of God is the most loving thing a man or women can do, period! You, by the way, have yet to do so. You have now said, in reply to him, that you don't understand where he is coming from. Now, while he has used God's Word to back up what he has tried to teach you and you have not even given a jot of scripture to back up what you are teaching, I would have to say that it is you that is not showing love or kindness or patience. And so in conclusion my friend, I must say that if you cannot understand the Word of God, then you are the one that is not spirit filled, as you have accused us of being.
John 12:40 "HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM."
I pray that God open your eyes my friend.
God bless
John
P.S. If you find this place offensive, then yes, you truly are in the wrong place. But I pray that you find a loving heart behind the rebukes that you have received and stay, study the Word of God with us, learn to love it as we have here at the forum most thankfully and respectfully do. |
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