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Results from: Answers, Notes
On or After: Sun 02/17/08 ordered by Date
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Answer |
NT general |
BMyers |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:26am |
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Welcome Mr. C,
I have just been reading through the post and seen that several members who have given you scripture to adequately support the Bible's view of homosexuality and sin.
To answer the question if God loves the sinner, and He does (otherwise we would all be in trouble (Romans 3:23). How do we know that God loves the sinner, John 3:14-21
JN 3:14 “As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
JN 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
JN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
JN 3:17 “For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
JN 3:18 “ He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
JN 3:19 “This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
JN 3:20 “ For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
JN 3:21 “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
As we can see Jesus didn't come to condemn us, but save us. The 'fall of man' has already condemned us to death.
RO 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Does your son have to give up homosexuality to get saved? No (everyone put down the stones). Yet, once your son is saved, he will start walking in the light and the old sinful nature will be washed away. He will be a new creature in Christ and his lifestyle must reflect this change.
Let me give you an old example, but one that I like. You take a bath to get clean; you don't get clean and then take a bath.
Currently your son is a slave to the sinful nature of man. He cannot change himself. How many people have you seen that have tried to make themselves a 'better' person but failed. The power to change from one's sinful nature is not something we have in use, but comes from the grace of the Almighty God through His son Jesus Christ and we are empowered by the working of the Holy Spirit in our life.
Jesus never asked a sinner to clean-up their act before he offered to change them, but once He changed them, He told them to go and sin no more (John 8:11).
God loves your son more than you do (which is hard concept to grasp). I've tried to figure out how God could love my own daughter more than I do yet when I remember how he sent His Son to die for my daughter the concept slowly sinks in.
Thank God for His willingness to love me even when I was a sinner. Now I'm a blood bought child of God. Am I perfect? No and I still make mistakes, but I work hard with the help of the Holy Spirit (John 16:7-11) to try to walk in the light.
To summarize the post, God loves us all and does hate the sin and the destruction that it brought upon His creation. You don't have to get 'cleaned up' to become a child of God, but once you start 'your bath' the old nature must go. Your son’s lifestyle of homosexuality is an abomination to God, but he still loves your son.
Prayer for your son and yourself that the Holy Spirit will work in your son’s heart and give you the words of wisdom you need to guide him from the darkness into the light of Christ.
Brad
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Making a Vain Show |
Note |
Jer 7:8 |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:17am |
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"Oh, that I might live to see that day when professors shall not walk in vain show; when they shall please themselves no more with a name to live, being spiritually dead; when they shall no more (as many of them now are) be a company of frothy, vain, and unserious persons, but the majestic beams of holiness shining from their heavenly and serious conversation shall awe the world, and command reverence from all who are about them; when they shall warm the hearts of those who come nigh them, so that men shall say, 'God is truly in these men!'" --John Flavel |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:09am |
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Son, you're not doing much for your case. I didn't say decry, whinge, accuse, and opine... I said calm, careful, honest, logical, and Scriptural.
Do you understand the doctrine of sola Scriptura? |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
stjohn |
Sat 05/17/08, 9:04am |
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Hello, gospelcompilation: I am truly sorry that you are offended, but, Brother Steve has tried to direct you to a proper understanding of the Word of God, with the Word of God. My dear friend, giving out the Word of God is the most loving thing a man or women can do, period! You, by the way, have yet to do so. You have now said, in reply to him, that you don't understand where he is coming from. Now, while he has used God's Word to back up what he has tried to teach you and you have not even given a jot of scripture to back up what you are teaching, I would have to say that it is you that is not showing love or kindness or patience. And so in conclusion my friend, I must say that if you cannot understand the Word of God, then you are the one that is not spirit filled, as you have accused us of being.
John 12:40 "HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM."
I pray that God open your eyes my friend.
God bless
John
P.S. If you find this place offensive, then yes, you truly are in the wrong place. But I pray that you find a loving heart behind the rebukes that you have received and stay, study the Word of God with us, learn to love it as we have here at the forum most thankfully and respectfully do. |
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what's your preference |
Note |
Heb 12:6 |
DocTrinsograce |
Sat 05/17/08, 8:59am |
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Here they are, ma'am...
http://www.biblehelpsonline.com/books.html |
| 6 |
God love the senner but hate the sin |
Answer |
NT general |
skccab |
Sat 05/17/08, 5:01am |
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Shalom Mr C,
Welcome to the Forum.
This is not going to be the answer that you want, but maybe it will be helpful to counsel your son - so here goes:
1 Cor. 6:9 says "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals 10 "nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."
And further, read 1 Cor. 6:15-20 and especially verse 18 "Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body..."
So the above verses agree with you, God hates the sin of homosexuality.
Does God love the sinner? Absolutely!! He gave His only Son to redeem each and every sinner from the bondage of sin!
Can your son remain a homosexual and still be saved? Yes and No.
First let's deal with the "no". He CANNOT be saved and live an active homosexual life.
But Yes he can be saved and totally sell out to God's word and live the rest of his life celibately (it's been done before!). For that matter, if your son will let Him, God can completely renew your son's mind and heart! That's been done before too!!
Gal. 6:7 "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 "For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life."
Sorry, this wasn't exactly the answer that you wanted, but it's what the Bible says. And 1 Cor chapter 6 also says that what you join yourself to is what you become one with (that would be either a prostitute, another homosexual, or the Lord Himself - but you can't join yourself to both).
I will be praying for you and your son
Cheri |
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 3:39am |
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Perhaps you should ask the one Steve offended if his post was "very well stated, with commendable kindness and patience."
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God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 3:38am |
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Perhaps you should tell these things to your compatriots, Doc.
I didn't attack anyone when I came on here; but rather, I offered kind words of comfort to those I saw in need.
But these people you praise so highly responded with nothing but harsh criticism and slanderous remarks. One even stooped to hurling insults.
This may be a Bible Study Forum, Doc... but that doesn't mean it's a holy Spirit filled forum. A person may appear to have a knowledge of Scripture, but it doesn't mean anything without the character of Christ; even the devil can quote Scripture.
And, as a new member of the forum, I have strictly adhered to the Lockman standard; whereas the few who have responded to my posts have not.
They have not "Limited content that contains known denominational biases that produce potential strife and undue conflict." They have "pushed their denominational bias and engaged in debates." They have not "interacted with [new members] in a Christian spirit, with respect and grace." They have not "let their speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that they will know how to respond to [new members]."
So go tell your friends to read the Lockman standards. They need it far more than I.
And thank them for their warm, friendly welcome.
Not.
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| 9 |
God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
Hank |
Sat 05/17/08, 3:29am |
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gospelcompilation :: You say you are "merely sharing my views of God's wonderful word." Thus far you have not graced this Forum with anything from "God's wonderful word" but merely opinion, not a word of which has been backed up by even as much as an identifiable scripural allusion, much less a direct quotation. . ....... You conclude with "Perhaps I came to the wrong place." Perhaps so. As the name of the web site clearly implies, this is a forum for studying the Bible, a Study Bible Forum indeed, but decidedly not a place that permits or welcomes a string of mere opinions, speculations or guesses based on mere opinions, speculations or guesses. If you wish to continue to post, please read carefully the terms of use and follow them to the best of your ability. ..... And by the way, the Bible leaves the reasonable reader no room whatever to doubt its condemnation of the sin of homosexuality ...... You say that "Scripture is not a weapon to be used...but an intimate, personal teaching device." I don't know where you got this idea, but a citation is clearly needed. Here's what the Bible says: "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). It also says: "All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work" (2 Timothy 3:16,17). This Forum holds to the doctrine of sola scriptura; and thus we hold the word of God in high regard on all spiritual matters and the word of man in low regard. --Hank |
| 10 |
God love the senner but hate the sin |
Note |
NT general |
gospelcompilation |
Sat 05/17/08, 3:21am |
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To answer your suppositions and questions, Steve, would take far more time that I am willing to expend on a site such as this. I do have a life, after all, and I owe no man anything.
I'm not even sure what you were trying to say in this post, and it has left me more confused on your position. From your statements, I have to assume that you believe God does indeed force us to do things and/or forces things upon us. I also have to assume that you do not believe in a person's free will to choose anything.
So be it.
You're right. And so am I.
But I'm curious, Steve. How do you think your responses to my post have helped the individual who asked the question about their son being homosexual. Or... in your zeal to find fault with my theology, did you forget about the one who is hurting?
Whatever your agenda was, I hope you achieved it.
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