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why were Eli's sons permitted to do this |
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1 Samuel
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I am wondering how a man such as Eli allowed his sons to continue in their wicked ways. Is there something in his past that contributed to this? |
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why were Eli's sons permitted to do this |
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1 Samuel
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This is evidence that Eli's faith grew cold in his later years. This is evidenced by the way God judged him at the end of his life.
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Still not clear...would appreciate more |
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I understand that his faith had to be cold...but what do you supposed caused that to happen. I understand the rites and rituals of such a man, and am curious if there is another text that might further explain it. I also know that rites and rituals do not attest to ones spiritual health, but find it hard to understand how this man could have grown away from the fear of the Lord to allow this to happen. |
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Still not clear...would appreciate more |
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1 Samuel
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Dear Cking_Hisface, Parents have been blind to their children's sin (and their own sin, for that matter) since Adam. See Proverbs and Deuteronomy for neccesity of discipline for their salvation and your testimony. |
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What was Saul's problem? |
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What was Saul's problem in 1 Samuel 18:6-9, and what did it eventually lead to? |
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What was Saul's problem? |
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1 Samuel
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In 1 Samuel 18:6-9, all the women sang 'Saul has slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands' (vv. 6-7), making Saul very angry because he now viewed David as a threat to his kingdom (v. 9) and looked at David with suspicion from that day forward. It is a measure of Saul's insecurity and jealousy that he read their intentions incorrectly and took offense. His resentment may have been initially triggered by the mention of David's name alongside his own. To note how the Philistines interpreted this song, look at 1 Sam. 21:11. |
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goliath was a giant from out of what peo |
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goliah was a giant from out of what people
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goliath was a giant from out of what peo |
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1 Samuel
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Goliath
great. (1.) A famous giant of Gath, who for forty
days openly defied the armies of Israel, but was
at length slain by David with a stone from a sling
(1Sa 17:4). HEW WAS PROBABLY DECENDED from
the REPHAIM who found refuge among the
Philistines after they were dispersed by the
Ammonites (De 2:20-21). His height was "six
cubits and a span," which, taking the cubit at 21
inches, is equal to 10 1/2 feet. David cut off his
head (1Sa 17:51) and brought it to Jerusalem,
while he hung the armour which he took from
him in his tent. His sword was preserved at Nob
as a religious trophy (1Sa 21:9). David's victory
over Goliath was the turning point in his life. He
came into public notice now as the deliverer of
Israel and the chief among Saul's men of war
(1Sa 18:5), and the devoted friend of Jonathan.
(2.) In 2Sa 21:19 there is another giant of the
same name mentioned as slain by Elhanan. The
staff of his apear "was like a weaver's beam."
The Authorized Version interpolates the words
"the brother of" from 1Ch 20:5, where this giant
is called Lahmi.
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Genesis 6:1-3 indicates that giants like Goliath were the result of coupling between angels and women. II Samuel 21:15-22 states that Goliath had four sons. I heard teaching once that suggested the reason David chose five stones from the river is he intended to go after Goliath's sons as well (I Samuel 17:40). |
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Jude 6 is another scripture which comes to mind re: Genesis 6:1-3. Just food for thought.... |
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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1 Samuel
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Its regarding the incident of Samuel being raised back from the dead. I would like to know if the image of Samuel was in deed him, or was it an evil spirit impersonating him. Deuteronomy 13:1-3 says that the Lord allows his servents to be tested by evil spirits to test faith. Please help me with this question? |
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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Samuel wasn't raised from the dead. His spirit was conjured - by someone who really didn't expect him to show up, or she wouldn't have been so frightened!
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12 When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul, "Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!"
13 The king said to her, "Don't be afraid. What do you see?" The woman said, "I see a spirit coming up out of the ground."
14 "What does he look like?" he asked. "An old man wearing a robe is coming up," she said. Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.
15 Samuel said to Saul, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?" "I am in great distress," Saul said. "The Philistines are fighting against me, and God has turned away from me. He no longer answers me, either by prophets or by dreams. So I have called on you to tell me what to do."
16 Samuel said, "Why do you consult me, now that the LORD has turned away from you and become your enemy?
17 The LORD has done what he predicted through me. The LORD has torn the kingdom out of your hands and given it to one of your neighbors--to David.
18 Because you did not obey the LORD or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the LORD has done this to you today."
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We know it's really Samuel by the advice he gives. 'You turned away from God, so He turned away from you. - JUST LIKE I TOLD YOU!'
If it had been an evil spirit, he probably would have said something like - Oh you're just being silly. God hasn't turned away from you. Keep on doing what you're doing (sinning) God will help you win tomorrow.
There is an excellent chapter on this very verse in "Really Bad Girls of the Bible." |
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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Scripture ... 1 Sam 28:12-18 ........
Greetings, dromano777. My answer is delayed. I've been away.
Verse 15 says it was Samuel, so I think it was him. If it was him, the woman didn't bring him up, God did.
Searcher
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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I don't think this was Samuel from the dead at all, but a demon acting as Samuel. Saul had already inquired of the LORD, and the LORD did not answer him (1Sa_28:6). If God refused to answer thru the Holy Spirit, I don’t think He would answer thru demonic means.
Look at 1Sa_28:19. The demon (or Samuel) says “tomorrow you and your sons will be with me.” Did Saul join Samuel, or demons? I really don’t know for sure, but from the indication of scripture I do not think Saul joined Samuel.
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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Greetings dromano777,
This question about whether Samuel was really Samuel or a demon or summoned from the dead has already been asked and answered on several occasions here on the Forum. Please go to the Search function at the right to see the prior discussions about this topic.
Welcome to the Forum!
Nolan |
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why were Eli's sons permitted to do this |
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As a man of God, Eli only did God's will. It was not Eli's duty to "save" his sons. Only they-his sons, could do that by stopping their wicked acts, repenting, and following after the Lord. Just as later, Samuel could neither prevent Israel from demanding a king other than God nor the king from disobeying God's commandments. |
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Is the image in 1Sam. 28 really Samuel? |
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Yes, it was actually Samuel. At this point, the Holy Spirit had departed from Saul, thus the Lord had no reason to test him, and as we see, the words of Samuel's spirit actually came true. |
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What was Saul's problem? |
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Saul knew that his days as king were numbered (1Sam 15:23,26,28) and figured that David would be the one to replace him. It-the idea of losing his throne, showed that Saul had become enslaved to the flesh and to worldly things. None of what happened between Saul and David would have occurred if Saul would have had let go of the throne when the time came; instead he tried to prevent or overthrow God's word. This act-preventing God's word from manifesting into truth, is what led to the ruin of him and his posterity. |
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Still not clear...would appreciate more |
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My 2 cents: 1 Sam 1:9 says Eli "was sitting", so 4:13 and 18, the last says he was "heavy" (fat). 3:3 says the lamp used to "go out", but Ex. 27:20 ordered to "keep them burning". Samuel ask in 7:3 for "all your heart", so The Lord was asking for "real worship", not just a religion.
Samuel made the same mistake after. I feel the were so busy servants that failed to care of their children neccesities... |
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where was Eli"s home |
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where was Eli"s home |
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where was Eli"s home |
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ELI:
He acted also as a civil judge in
Israel after the death of Samson (1Sa 4:18), and
judged Israel for forty years.
Judge Israel for forty years, he maybe residing in Israel.
Thanks,
Johnny
Eli
ascent, the high priest when the ark was at
Shiloh (1Sa 1:3,9). He was the first of the line of
Ithamar, Aaron's fourth son (1Ch 24:3; comp.
2Sa 8:17), who held that office. The office
remained in his family till the time of Abiathar
(1Ki 2:26-27), whom Solomon deposed, and
appointed Zadok, of the family of Eleazar, in his
stead (35). He acted also as a civil judge in
Israel after the death of Samson (1Sa 4:18), and
judged Israel for forty years.
His sons Hophni and Phinehas grossly
misconducted themselves, to the great disgust
of the people (1Sa 2:27-36). They were
licentious reprobates. He failed to reprove them
so sternly as he ought to have done, and so
brought upon his house the judgment of God
(1Sa 2:22-33; 3:18). The Israelites proclaimed
war against the Philistines, whose army was
encamped at Aphek. The battle, fought a short
way beyond Mizpeh, ended in the total defeat of
Israel. Four thousand of them fell in "battle
array". They now sought safety in having the
"ark of the covenant of the Lord" among them.
They fetched it from Shiloh, and Hophni and
Phinehas accompanied it. This was the first time
since the settlement of Israel in Canaan that the
ark had been removed from the sanctuary. The
Philistines put themselves again in array against
Israel, and in the battle which ensued "Israel
was smitten, and there was a very great
slaughter." The tidings of this great disaster
were speedily conveyed to Shiloh, about 20
miles distant, by a messenger, a Benjamite from
the army. There Eli sat outside the gate of the
sanctuary by the wayside, anxiously waiting for
tidings from the battle-field. The full extent of the
national calamity was speedily made known to
him: "Israel is fled before the Philistines, there
has also been a great slaughter among the
people, thy two sons Hophni and Phinehas are
dead, and the ark of God is taken" (1Sa
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where was Eli"s home |
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Scripture ... 1 Samuel 1:3 ... Siloh was where Eli was living. |
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Did Hannah make a deal with God? |
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I have spent a lot of time recently reading the story of Hannah. I have read her prayer for Samuel, and I have read her song from when she delivered Samuel to Eli. I don't believe that Hannah made a "deal" with God, but the wording of her prayer gave me that idea at first. I have spent a lot of time reading the books that precede this story in an attempt to understand what her spiritual heritage would have been, hoping to understand what she meant, not what I read in a translation of a text written down long after the fact. I need some perspective on this. Who can help? |
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Did Hannah make a deal with God? |
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1 Sam 1:11
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I have spent a lot of time recently reading the story of Hannah. I have read her prayer for Samuel, and I have read her song from when she delivered Samuel to Eli. I don't believe that Hannah made a "deal" with God, but the wording of her prayer gave me that idea at first. I have spent a lot of time reading the books that precede this story in an attempt to understand what her spiritual heritage would have been, hoping to understand what she meant, not what I read in a translation of a text written down long after the fact. I need some perspective on this. Who can help? |
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Did Hannah make a deal with God? |
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Greetings Katherine!
The story of Hanna is an excellent one for study! I don't believe that Hanna "made a deal" with God either..
In her song she did mention that "Even the barren gives birth to seven, but she who has many children languishes." (1 Sam. 2:5) God often reverses human circumstances, and God answered her prayer! (1 Sam. 1:11)
God took notice of how she reacted, immediately after her request was made: her face was no longer sad and she did not fast (v. 18), and He granted her request with a son (v. 19-20). Such a reaction is evidence of faith and devotion!
And sure enough, when it came time for her son to be weaned, and she gave him to the Lord's service! (1 Sam. 1:26-28)
Surely, the Lord could have raised up any prophet that He liked. But He chose barren and humble Hanna, who displayed a pure devotion to her Lord, to bring Samuel into the world, who would eventually become the Judge of all Israel.
Blessings to you,
Makarios |
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How did Hannah decide to give up Samuel? |
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Your comments are helpful in gaining perspective on her prayer. I am curious, however, how she came to see that giving up the gift she yearned for was the thing to do. I have tried to imagine what teaching she would have received that led her to this astonishing act. I can't find anything in the stories that precede her life that models such a choice. I did find the references where God claimed all the firstborn and required redemption for them. Is that part of the explanation? Or is it even bigger, referring to God's constant reminder that everything we receive is already his? Who taught her? Her mother? Priestly readings? |
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Did Hannah make a deal with God? |
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Katherine,
I think it was more a vow made in prayer than a deal. Hannah's situation was in some ways similar to that of Rachel in Genesis 29:31-30:24.
It is also interesting to compare Hannah's song of paise in 1 Samuel 2 to Mary's song of praise in Luke 1:46-55.
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How did Hannah decide to give up Samuel? |
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hi katherine-angel1 here. If we look at what happened to Hannah-she was being harrassed by an "adversary"-teased and prodded to tears about her baren condition. Then look at who Samuel became.-I think this is showing us an instance of God moving us in a direction that we may not understand so we will do what He wants to accomplish His plan. in Him-angel1 |
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How did Hannah decide to give up Samuel? |
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Greetings again, Katherine!
I see it this way: Hanna did not expect to have a child, even though she yearned for one! The very name "Samuel" means 'name of God' and serves as a continual reminder of God's mercy toward those who call upon His name. And Hanna was very grateful when she bore a son! In this way, she could gain retribution for the insults that she endured (1 Sam. 1:6,7), even though Elkanah, her husband, didn't especially have a need for a son to carry on the family heritage (1 Sam. 1:2,8).
So even though a son was not especially needed to please her husband, since he had other children by his other wife, Hanna still desired to have a son, and she would devote him to a lifetime of service to the Lord, which is a sacrifice that she made out of gratitude! So she made a request of the Lord and was vindicated in much the same way that Rachel was (with the birth of Joseph in Genesis 30).
As for her learning, she would have known about Sampson and the Nazirite vow (Numbers 6, Judges 13), according to the history that could be gained by spending much time in the house of the Lord, which is something that Hanna did often (1 Sam. 1:7). So I would conclude that she learned or came to this conclusion from spending time in the presence of the priests in the house of the Lord and possibly from her own husband. If you read carefully, there is no mention of any such disapproval from Elkanah for the dedication of their son, and Elkanah supports Hanna's decision (1 Sam. 1:23).
Blessings to you,
Makarios |
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How did Hannah decide to give up Samuel? |
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Katherine,
"Or is it even bigger, referring to God's constant reminder that everything we receive is already his?"
I think you have the answer there. I am not aware of any answer to who taught her. Perhaps it was made clear to her by God in pray.
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