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1 God love the senner but hate the sin Answer NT general skccab Sat 05/17/08, 5:01am
  Shalom Mr C,
Welcome to the Forum.

This is not going to be the answer that you want, but maybe it will be helpful to counsel your son - so here goes:

1 Cor. 6:9 says "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals 10 "nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."

And further, read 1 Cor. 6:15-20 and especially verse 18 "Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body..."

So the above verses agree with you, God hates the sin of homosexuality.
Does God love the sinner? Absolutely!! He gave His only Son to redeem each and every sinner from the bondage of sin!

Can your son remain a homosexual and still be saved? Yes and No.

First let's deal with the "no". He CANNOT be saved and live an active homosexual life.

But Yes he can be saved and totally sell out to God's word and live the rest of his life celibately (it's been done before!). For that matter, if your son will let Him, God can completely renew your son's mind and heart! That's been done before too!!

Gal. 6:7 "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 "For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life."

Sorry, this wasn't exactly the answer that you wanted, but it's what the Bible says. And 1 Cor chapter 6 also says that what you join yourself to is what you become one with (that would be either a prostitute, another homosexual, or the Lord Himself - but you can't join yourself to both).

I will be praying for you and your son
Cheri
2 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general gospelcompilation Sat 05/17/08, 3:39am
 

Perhaps you should ask the one Steve offended if his post was "very well stated, with commendable kindness and patience."

3 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general gospelcompilation Sat 05/17/08, 3:38am
 

Perhaps you should tell these things to your compatriots, Doc.

I didn't attack anyone when I came on here; but rather, I offered kind words of comfort to those I saw in need.

But these people you praise so highly responded with nothing but harsh criticism and slanderous remarks. One even stooped to hurling insults.

This may be a Bible Study Forum, Doc... but that doesn't mean it's a holy Spirit filled forum. A person may appear to have a knowledge of Scripture, but it doesn't mean anything without the character of Christ; even the devil can quote Scripture.

And, as a new member of the forum, I have strictly adhered to the Lockman standard; whereas the few who have responded to my posts have not.

They have not "Limited content that contains known denominational biases that produce potential strife and undue conflict." They have "pushed their denominational bias and engaged in debates." They have not "interacted with [new members] in a Christian spirit, with respect and grace." They have not "let their speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that they will know how to respond to [new members]."

So go tell your friends to read the Lockman standards. They need it far more than I.

And thank them for their warm, friendly welcome.

Not.

4 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general Hank Sat 05/17/08, 3:29am
  gospelcompilation :: You say you are "merely sharing my views of God's wonderful word." Thus far you have not graced this Forum with anything from "God's wonderful word" but merely opinion, not a word of which has been backed up by even as much as an identifiable scripural allusion, much less a direct quotation. . ....... You conclude with "Perhaps I came to the wrong place." Perhaps so. As the name of the web site clearly implies, this is a forum for studying the Bible, a Study Bible Forum indeed, but decidedly not a place that permits or welcomes a string of mere opinions, speculations or guesses based on mere opinions, speculations or guesses. If you wish to continue to post, please read carefully the terms of use and follow them to the best of your ability. ..... And by the way, the Bible leaves the reasonable reader no room whatever to doubt its condemnation of the sin of homosexuality ...... You say that "Scripture is not a weapon to be used...but an intimate, personal teaching device." I don't know where you got this idea, but a citation is clearly needed. Here's what the Bible says: "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). It also says: "All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work" (2 Timothy 3:16,17). This Forum holds to the doctrine of sola scriptura; and thus we hold the word of God in high regard on all spiritual matters and the word of man in low regard. --Hank
5 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general gospelcompilation Sat 05/17/08, 3:21am
 

To answer your suppositions and questions, Steve, would take far more time that I am willing to expend on a site such as this. I do have a life, after all, and I owe no man anything.

I'm not even sure what you were trying to say in this post, and it has left me more confused on your position. From your statements, I have to assume that you believe God does indeed force us to do things and/or forces things upon us. I also have to assume that you do not believe in a person's free will to choose anything.

So be it.

You're right. And so am I.

But I'm curious, Steve. How do you think your responses to my post have helped the individual who asked the question about their son being homosexual. Or... in your zeal to find fault with my theology, did you forget about the one who is hurting?

Whatever your agenda was, I hope you achieved it.

6 what's your preference Note Heb 12:6 CDBJ Sat 05/17/08, 2:13am
  Greetings,
God is only the father of those that have put their total faith in the finished work of Christ.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Galatians 3:26
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Only those that are secure in Christ can say that God is their father.

God only created Adam and Eve the rest of us are procreated.

Those that have total faith and trust in Gods Messiah have become a new creation as per,
II Cor. 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Those that haven't trusted in Jesus are actually under God's wrath at this very moment.
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Have you came to the place yet in your spiritual walk where you know “for sure” that eternal life is reserved in heaven for you, or is that something you are still working on?

If you would be so kind and take a few minutes and fill out something about yourself in the Personal Profile section of the forum it sure would help those who are trying to post with you.
It’s called USER INFO and is located on the left side of the home page.

Have a great day, CDBJ
7 what's your preference Note Heb 12:6 azurelaw Sat 05/17/08, 12:39am
  Dear Brother Doc,

Thank you very much for the quotes. Is it possible to access the book online to read? If not, is it still sold at bookstores?

Shalom
Azure
8 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general stjohn Sat 05/17/08, 12:01am
  Excellent post, Brother Steve!

Very well stated, with commendable kindness and patients, well done!


God bless
John
9 God love the senner but hate the sin Note NT general humbledbyhisgrace Fri 05/16/08, 11:42pm
 
You have the free will teachings of mankind not of scripture. This is why I pointed you to scripture to help you understand what God has to say on the matter not the free will thinkers of mankind's point of view. If there is any validity to your argument, then you should be able to provide scripture proof of such. The fact is, we both need to be right! It's not about me being right and you being wrong or you being right and me being wrong. It's important that you and I both are right and to be so we have to conform to the word of God not our own opinions. Our opinions MUST conform to the word of God or they are pointless and useless and only lead others into a false understanding of God and what His word teaches.

You say "And I'm pretty confident that God has not forced you to obey Him... which ultimately means His authority to rule over you is limited by your own free will."

Here is your fallacy in the doctrine you teach and believe. If the statement above were true as you teach and believe, then you contradict your own teaching by saying " God has given each of us the right to choose whether we want to obey Him or not, which naturally places a limitation on His authority to rule."

Do you see how you defeat your own argument on the matter? If it is God who gives us the "right" as you say to choose, then where does that place your free will? If God has any limitation as you teach, then God Himself must be the one who places the limitation on Himself and it is not your "free will" that limits Him. Understand? So as the scriptures teach, your "free will" is not as free as you and others would have us believe. The scriptures teach us we are slaves to sin as I have pointed out to you already. Therefore, your "free will" is not free to do anything but choose sin. This is what the natural man has chosen and is enslaved to. Note again what it says in Roman 8:7 (NASB) "because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so"

NOT EVEN ABLE TO DO SO! What free will is there then?

And again, what does it say in Matthew 11:27 (NASB) ""All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him."

nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him! So, where does this leave your free will?

You say "I understand God's RIGHT to rule, but that doesn't mean He will use coercion or manipulation or threats of violence to enforce that right."

I would encourage you to read through the old testament! Again, His word is much different then what you teach!


Steve
10 How did Job learn so much about the univ Note Is 40:22 dmmiles Fri 05/16/08, 11:33pm
  Thank you for your help. I'm sure as I keep reading the bible I'll have so many more questions. God's blessed me with people like you to help me on the path.
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