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Jabez Prayer |
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1 Chronicles
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Jabez Prayer |
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What about the Jabez Prayer? |
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1 Chronicles
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Dear Richard Koh, what about the Jabez Prayer? |
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What about the Jabez Prayer? |
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1 Chronicles
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More info about Jabez prayer How can I apply in my own time.
Thanks |
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What about the Jabez Prayer? |
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1 Chronicles
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More info about Jabez prayer How can I apply in my own time.
Thanks |
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What about the Jabez Prayer? |
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1 Chronicles
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From the reading in 1 Chronicles 4:9,10, we learn the following about the character of Jabez:
1. He was more honourable than his brethren (vs. 9).
2. He was one who worshipped God (vs. 10).
3. He prayed to God with an attitude of humility (vs. 10).
4. He asked God to (1) bless him; (2) enlarge his coast; (3) be with him; (4) keep him from doing evil, that it might not grieve him (vs. 10).
In other words, he was anxious to grow in the knowledge of God and to do His Will and not his own. The Apostle Peter exhorts us as Christians to aspire to do the same thing (1 Peter 2:2; 2 Peter 3:18).
Appreciate your question and pray that the Lord will continue to bless you as you study His Word and seek to do His Will.
Mike |
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I'd like know about Jabes
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1 Chronicles
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I'd like know about Jabes
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I'd like know about Jabes |
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1 Chronicles
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("Jabes") Jabez was a pious Israelite who asked God for blessing and received it. (1 Chron. 4:9-10). He, among many other biblical characters, illustrates the power of prayer. Jabez currently is enjoying a season of unprecedented renown thanks to the popular book, "The Prayer of Jabez." --Hank |
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I'd like know about Jabes |
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1 Chronicles
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Thanx Hank for your answer....I got the book and really the Prayer of Jabez is perfect
God Bless u |
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I'd like know about Jabes |
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1 Chronicles
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angel-girl-
I, too, have the book. The only thing I have against it is that it could just become a ritualized prayer. It is not a good luck saying, or something to say "Hey God, I said it for 30 days, now bless me". I think some people might go off on this tangent. I do agree with Hank, it is an example of how people can rise above what they were born into through prayer and God's blessings. The one thing that stood out to me, and could be compared to today, is that if he was the only one mentioned in that way, what were all the others doing?
Christ's peace to you
Debbie |
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Who wrote First Chronicles? |
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1 Chronicles
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Who wrote First Chronicles? |
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Who wrote First Chronicles? |
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1 Chronicles
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Greetings Torreys!
The Bible never says who wrote 1 Chronicles, so no one can see for sure. Jewish tradition says that Ezra wrote it.
Your Brother in Christ,
Tim Moran |
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the shortest verse of the bible? |
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1 Chr 1:25
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what is the shortest verse in the old testament?
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the shortest verse of the bible? |
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1 Chr 1:25
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Ace, 1 Chronicles 1:25 is the shortest verse in the Old Testament, containing three words, which are "Eber, Peleg, Reu." This knowledge, both of the location and the message of the verse, has infinite practical value.--Hank |
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Caleb's geneology: One Caleb or two? |
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1 Chr 2:1
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I'm trying to decipher the geneology of Caleb. There are two Calebs mentioned in this chapter, and I am suspecting they are both the same one mentioned in Numbers and Joshua. That Caleb was selected to represent the tribe of Judah as one of the 12 spies but had a falling out, perhaps over his report that went against the majority and thus lived with the Kenizzites. That or he was a Kennizzite who married into the tribe of Judah, although that doesn't explain him being both a son of Hezron and Jephunneh. |
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Caleb's geneology: One Caleb or two? |
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1 Chr 2:1
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Greetings Custardflan!
Good study!
Here is some commentary that may help in deciphering the ancestral lineage of Caleb.. I believe that there were two Calebs: one in 1 Chronicles 2 and the other in Numbers and Joshua.
"CALEB (capable). According to (#1 Chronicles 2:9,18,19,42,50) the son of Hezron the son of Pharez the son of Judah, and the father of Hur, and consequently grandfather of Caleb the spy. (B.C. about 1600.) Son of Jephunneh, one of the twelve spies sent by Moses to Canaan. (#Numbers 13:6) (B.C. 1490.) He and Oshea or Joshua the son of Nun were the only two of the whole number who encouraged the people to enter in boldly to the land and take possession of it. Fortyfive years afterwards Caleb came to Joshua and claimed possession of the land of the Anakim, Kirjath-arba or Hebron, and the neighboring hill country. Josh 14. This was immediately granted to him, and the following chapter relates how he took possession of Hebron, driving out the three sons of Anak; and how he offered Achsah his daughter in marriage to whoever would take Kirjath-sepher, i.e. Debir; and how when Othniel, his younger brother, had performed the feat, he not only gave him his daughter to wife, but with her the upper and nether springs of water which she asked for. It is probable that Caleb was a foreigner by birth, --a proselyte, incorporated into the tribe of Judah." (1)
"CALEB a dog. (1.) One of the three sons of Hezron of the tribe of Judah. He is also called Chelubai (1 Chr. 2:9). His descendants are enumerated (18-20, 42-49). (2.) A "son of Hur, the firstborn of Ephratah" (1 Chr. 2:50). Some would read the whole passage thus: "These [i.e., the list in ver. 42-49] were the sons of Caleb. The sons of Hur, the firstborn of Ephratah, were Shobal, etc." Thus Hur would be the name of the son and not the father of Caleb (ver. 19). (3.) The son of Jephunneh (Num. 13:6; 32:12; Josh. 14:6, 14). He was one of those whom Moses sent to search the land in the second year after the Exodus. He was one of the family chiefs of the tribe of Judah. He and Joshua the son of Nun were the only two of the whole number who encouraged the people to go up and possess the land, and they alone were spared when a plague broke out in which the other ten spies perished (Num. 13; 14). All the people that had been numbered, from twenty years old and upward, perished in the wilderness except these two. The last notice we have of Caleb is when (being then eighty-five years of age) he came to Joshua at the camp at Gilgal, after the people had gained possession of the land, and reminded him of the promise Moses had made to him, by virtue of which he claimed a certain portion of the land of Kirjath-arba as his inheritance (Josh. 14:6-15; 15:13-15; 21:10-12; 1 Sam. 25:2,3; 30:14). He is called a "Kenezite" in Josh. 14:6,14. This may simply mean "son of Kenez" (Num. 32:12). Some, however, read "Jephunneh, the son of Kenez," who was a descendant of Hezron, the son of Pharez, a grandson of Judah (1 Chr. 2:5). This Caleb may possibly be identical with (2). (4.) Caleb gave his name apparently to a part of the south country (1 Sam. 30:14) of Judah, the district between Hebron and Carmel, which had been assigned to him. When he gave up the city of Hebron to the priests as a city of refuge, he retained possession of the surrounding country (Josh. 21:11,12; comp. 1 Sam. 25:3)." (2)
Blessings to you,
Makarios
(1) Smith's Bible Dictionary
(2) Easton's Bible Dictionary |
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Caleb's geneology: One Caleb or two? |
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1 Chr 2:1
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Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out and get back to you.
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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Any thoughts to share about Jabez? |
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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How is it that a person writes a whole book about one verse in Scripture that is most definitely not central to Biblical theology? How does he conclude scripturally that we can claim "the Prayer of Jabez" for ourselves?
--Joe! |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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My biggest fear is that the prayer of Jabez will/has become a talisman for some people. People will be putting their faith and hope in the prayer rather than God. Has anybody seen this? |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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EdB, an astute observation and I share your thoughts about the prayer of Jabez being used as a talisman, a "rabbit's foot" kind of thing that is meant to bring one good fortune. We run far afield, it seems to me, when we fall into a ritualistic mode of praying. It's little removed from the paganistic practice of saying mantras over and over. The same observation appears to hold with reference to the so-called "Lord's Prayer" when it is repeated time upon time without due regard to what the words mean. When someone concludes a service or a meeting by asking everyone to stand and "say" the Lord's Prayer, one has to wonder who is "saying" and who is "praying". There is a difference! --Hank |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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Hank, I was wondering if you had actually taken the time to browse through the book. I haven't, but then I always am kind of allergic to whatever is on the "Top 10" shelf at my local Christian bookstore. If you have taken a look at it, what are your thoughts?
--Joe! |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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Joe, as it was in the days of Ecclesiastes "the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearing to the body", so it is today. Having but two eyes, one part-time brain, and just 24 hours a day, I long ago abandoned hope of even trying to keep up with all the new printed stuff that clamors for attention. "The Prayer of Jabez" is a case in point. I have not read it nor intend to. But it has made so much stir that I did manage to read a couple of fairly illuminating reviews. The apparent raison d'etre for the book is to teach its readers to repeat the prayer of Jabez daily for 30 days, I believe the review said, and "see what happens." I'm vague on exactly what is supposed to happen, but I take it that the writer implies that it will be good. If these reviews are on the mark, then the reviews are all I care ever to know of the book. It reminds me of the positive thinking aphorisms that the disciples of Norman Vincent Peale were to chant until they got rich and famous. --Hank |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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This idea is not too far off from the Christian Science view of God as some "divine principle," a force of nature to be tapped into.
It saddens me greatly to see many Christians who think of God as something like the Force from Star Wars, an impersonal law of nature whose forgiveness we gain and whose power we can obtain for ourselves if only we focus our own wills and energy in the right way. Terribly New Age, and it has no place in a biblical, Christian worldview where God actually says "no" at times when we pray to him, no matter how much faith we can "muster."
Then, many Christians blame themselves when bad things happen despite all their prayer. "My sister wouldn't have died if only I had had enough faith" and that kind of talk. As Christians, we must all strive in our own congregations at lovingly but firmly eliminating such spiritual pollution. Trouble is, there aren't enough people speaking out against popular yet ungodly trends due to the fact that they would be perceived as not being "nice" or "trying to quench the Spirit," etc.
Thanks for your insight!
--Joe! |
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More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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I read the book the Prayer of Jabez this morning. All in all, the book is pretty good. The thrust of the message is asking God to use you. The author explains how he graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and wasn't sure how God wanted to use to use him. He prayed the Prayer of Jabez and God has opened doors beyond his wildest dreams. He started and is the president of Walk Through the Bible (which in itself is excellent).
While the message of the book is solid it can easily be abused, as I said before the whole thing can quickly become a Talisman.
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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i have a thought about Jabez. I think it's pretty silly that the author of the book "Prayer of Jabez
" just assumed things about Jabez. The prayer of Jabez is only, like, a few verses long, and that is the only time we hear about him throughout the Bible, but this author makes this huge deal about him and tells pretty much his life story. Also, The author says that when Jabez askes God to expand his territory, he means to reach as many nonbelievers and expand Christianity. I think all Jabez wanted was more land. |
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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Torrey, I liked your post on the Jabez "fad" that continues to flourish, though I'm at a loss to understand just why. It's quite possible that about all Jabez wanted was more land, and he may have ended up owning Texas for all I know. What is even more certain is that the author and publisher of the Jabez books are having their pockets amply lined with greenbacks. Every time I visit a religious bookstore I see a new sequel on the shelves. There can be little question that the prayers of Jesus, His model prayer for his disciples (The Lord's Prayer) or his prayer in the garden, have far more didactic potential than the brief (dare we call it self-centered?) prayer of Jabez recorded in 1 Chron.4:10 and containing a mere 33 words. I'm toying with publishing an exposition on Cain's wife! What do you think of that? Do you think it will become a best-seller too? :-) --Hank |
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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I am glad that you are on my side, Hank. I work at a Christian bookstore, and all i see are the book of jabez. It's nice and all, but it is a little baby verse in a very uninteresting book of the bible and people read way too much into it. Good idea on the publishing the book on Cain's wife. It would outrank the Jabez books. what about one of Noah's sons or a novel on Goliath? |
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Anyone have thoughts about Jabez? |
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1 Chr 4:9
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I disagree about Chronicles being uninteresting, but I wanted everyone to know I have dibs on "The Thief on the Cross: The Early Years."
--Joe! |
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Is prayer of Jabez special? |
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1 Chr 4:10
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Is the prayer of Jabez in 1 Chronicles 4:10 special in some manner? Is it unique in the Bible, or are there other prayers much like it? --Hank |
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Is prayer of Jabez special? |
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1 Chr 4:10
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Hank, I think it is special only as far as every sincere prayer to our holy God is special. Not having read Wilkinson's book, I do not feel terribly qualified to comment on it. However, its enormous popularity among our lukewarm Christian book-buying populace makes me reluctant to go out and buy a copy. I have just seen too many people go hog wild (a Texas saying that you Razorbacks are familiar with, I am sure!) over the latest thing, whether it be the "Gulf War equals prelude to Armageddon," the Y2K thing, the so-called "Bible Code," or even the "Left Behind" series (oops, now I KNOW that there will be backlash on that one!). In my never-humble-enough opinion, my brothers and sisters in Christ should stop following the latest fads/trends, get back into some serious study of the Word, ground themselves in good, Biblical theology, and obey the Holy Spirit in being ambassadors for Christ, which is what we were re-made to do (2 Corinthians 5:17-20).
As you undoubtedly know, Hank, there are many examples of prayers in the Bible. My personal favorite is John 17. Of course, the one praying had the art down pretty good...
Always a pleasure, Hank!
--Joe! |
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