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On or After: Fri 05/8/15 Ordered by Date
Results Type Verse Author Date ID#
1 Holy Spirit Gifted to All Christendom Note Acts 2:32 DocTrinsograce Sat 05/23/15, 8:20am 242232
  Today is Shavu'ot (Pentecost), a day of commemoration of God's providence. Let us praise our Lord for the Living Word, atonement, regeneration and the Spirit's enlightenment by which we receive the Word.

"Good men and wymmen, this day is called Wytsonday because the Holy Ghost brought wytte and wysdom into Cristis disciples, and so by her preaching after in to all cristendom, and fylled them full of ghostly wytte." --Wynken de Worde (14??-1534)

2 God Reconciled Us! Note Rom 5:10 DocTrinsograce Thu 05/21/15, 5:47pm 242231
  "Contrary to our distorted intuitions, the gospel does not encourage our conquest of heaven through intellectual, mystical, and moral striving. It announces that even while we were enemies, God reconciled us!" --Michael Horton, from his book Christian Faith

3 Full Dependence on Providence Note Ezek 34:15 DocTrinsograce Thu 05/21/15, 4:31pm 242230
  "Thus situated, many hundred miles from our families in the howling wilderness, I believe few would have equally enjoyed the happiness we experienced. I often observed to my brother, You see now how little nature requires to be satisfied. Felicity, the companion of content, is rather found in our own breasts than in the enjoyment of external things; and I firmly believe it requires but a little philosophy to make a man happy in whatever state he is. This consists in a full resignation to the will of Providence; and a resigned soul finds pleasure in a path strewned with briars and thorns." --Daniel Boone (1734-1820)

4 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 EdB Mon 05/18/15, 11:28am 242226
You have stated a hypothesis based on common but often rejected teaching about the millennium. I will not say you are wrong but your are making assumptions on things silent in the Bible.

First your hypothesis is built on the assumption that there is a millennium as defined by man. There are many that dispute that there is a millenium as commonly defined by man.

Second nowhere in scripture do we see the requirements for salvation for those the live in the millennium. We know there are some that will be deceived Rev 20:10 but we can't say if or how this effected their salvation which is unknown to us to begin with.

That said I do agree that if all your assumptions are correct it would appear that there will be some righteous that will stand before the Great White Throne. A thought I had never considered before. Interesting!!!!
5 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 CDBJ Sat 05/16/15, 12:32pm 242222
Instead of beating around the bush Iíll just try and explain what I think I have found as a postulate from several different verses of Scripture.

Hebrews 9:27 (NASB)
27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
There are in fact seven different types of deaths mentioned in the Bible, physical death, spiritual death, operational death, positional death etc. but the one mentioned in Heb 9:27 is a reference to physical death.

During the period known as the Millennium there will be children born,
and as with today, they will have old sin natures and the need to be born again in order to have eternal life. Many will trust in the finished grace work of Christ that was accomplished on the cross. Still others will reject Godís gracious gift of salvation that is in Christ and will rebel against perfect environment when Satan is granted access back into the world.
Rev. 20:2,3 and Rev. 20:7-9

There is no judgment mentioned in Scripture between the judgment seat of Christ, or the BEMA seat, and the white throne judgment.
As a result we find the mention of books and a book in Rev.20, and the fact that it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment. These statements combined would have to place born again believers at the white throne judgment where the names of those believers will be found in the, ďsingularĒ, book of life. i.e. They havenít been blotted out of the book of life.

The books of works designates that the dead, i.e. the lost souls are depending on things that they have done to impress God. They tried to gain His approbation or approval for eternal life by what they did instead of depending on the salvation that God provided as a free gift from a gracious loving God.

Any one that doesnít have the righteousness that is of God will never have eternal life with God. God the father has made the total provision for eternal life resident within the person of His Son.

2 Corinthians 5:21 (AMP)
21 For our sake He made Christ [virtually] to be sin Who knew no sin, so that in and through Him we might become [endued with, viewed as being in, and examples of] the righteousness of God [what we ought to be, approved and acceptable and in right relationship with Him, by His goodness].

Those that think they have to die before they know for sure if they have eternal life arenít trusting God and what He says in His Word, the Bible.

John 3:18 (NKJV)
18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 (NKJV)
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
1 John 5:10-13 (AMP)
10 He who believes in the Son of God [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him] has the testimony [possesses this divine attestation] within himself. He who does not believe God [in this way] has made Him out to be and represented Him as a liar, because he has not believed (put his faith in, adhered to, and relied on) the evidence (the testimony) that God has borne regarding His Son.
11 And this is that testimony (that evidence): God gave us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
12 He who possesses the Son has that life; he who does not possess the Son of God does not have that life.
13 I write this to you who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) the name of the Son of God [in the peculiar services and blessings conferred by Him on men], so that you may know [with settled and absolute knowledge] that you [already] have life, yes, eternal life.
Have a great day, CDBJ
6 Loving the Return of our Lord Note Rev 2:16 DocTrinsograce Sat 05/16/15, 11:12am 242221
  "He who loves the coming of the Lord is not he who affirms that it is far off, nor is it he who says it is near, but rather he who, whether it be far off or near, awaits it with sincere faith, steadfast hope, and fervent love." --Augustine of Hippo (354-430)

7 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 EdB Sat 05/16/15, 8:04am 242220
Okay I see your question and the answer depends on your perspective of the Rapture.

If you believe in the rapture, as many believe is detailed in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, the righteous dead would already be risen before the Occurance of what takes place in Rev 20:11-15.

The righteous dead will be judged at the Bema Seat Judgment

The Bible talks about the Judgment Seat of Christ--also referred to as the bema--in three places: Romans 14:10-12; 1 Corinthians 3:10--4:5; and 2 Corinthians 5:1-10. Only church-age saints will appear at that judgment, as shown in 2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ."

If on the other hand you do not believe in the Rapture then yes it appears that both the righteous dead and unrighteous would be at the Great White Throne.

8 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 CDBJ Thu 05/14/15, 9:24pm 242213
  For sake of clarification let me put it another way. Will there be any born again believers judged at the great white throne judgment as enumerated in the following?

Revelation 20:11-15 (NASB)
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Considering these verses as well as other verses that may be found in Scripture pertaining to judgment.
9 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 EdB Thu 05/14/15, 11:33am 242212
  Based on your last paragraph let me clarify my responses. The Great White Throne of Judgment is not for Christians (Christ followers). However there will be many believers in Christ that will be Judged there. Those that believe and become true Christians (followers of Christ) will not be there.
10 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 EdB Thu 05/14/15, 11:28am 242211
  The point is they think they are believers. Belief in Christ will always produce a change. No change no real salvation. Many people never see/allow that change to be manifested in their lives. They believe that they can live as the did, act as they did and do as they did and that grace has saved them. This deception is very prevalent in the church today. Where there is no expectation nothing will manifest. So while we know them as not being save they consider themselves saved and the false belief/teaching that is wide spread in the Christian community reinforces that false assumption.
11 Judgement of believers Note Matt 7:21 CDBJ Thu 05/14/15, 9:25am 242210
The question was, will there be any believers at the white throne judgment not unbelievers, which is what you have alluded to. The verses that you emphasized are defiantly unbelievers even if they think they arenít; this is pointed out by the response that Jesus made.
Matthew 7:23 (KJV)
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
The key to previous verse is in the Lordís response ďI never knew youĒ with emphasis on the word never.
You made the statement and I quote, ďThis is something not many teach on. But just believing in Jesus Christ is not salvation. He has to be Lord and Master of our lives, in very aspect. Many believe few serve in that belief.Ē

Salvation isnít a cumulative thing that takes place over an extended period of time, itís instantaneous.

The glitch in the, so called, believing of many resides in their understanding of the Greek word translated, ďbelieveĒ.
The English word believe comes from the Koine Greek root word PISTIS.

The words believe, in the English, suggest merely giving mental assent to something which will give those that are doing it a very long hot stay for an eternity in the lake of fire!

The word PISTIS and or PISTEUO in the Greek conveys the following which is amplified in the Amplified Bible.
John 3:16 (AMP)
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.

The very instant that anyone places their undivided trust in the person of Jesus Christ and what He did on the cross for them are saved from that moment on for all of eternity. Itís a by GRACE through Faith operation plus nothing. Godís plan of salvation through faith His Son is a perfect plain and anything that man does to try and earn it nullifies Godís perfect plan.
The example from Scripture, that you suggested, doesnít show that there will be believers at the great white throne judgment.
The actual answer to the question is deduced from several verses, itís just putting them in order that answers the question.
Have a great day, CDBJ
12 Sweet Beams of God's Mercy Note Ps 68:3 DocTrinsograce Mon 05/11/15, 2:56pm 242205
  "Never was any saint brought into so desperate a distress but that through the mist of his misery sweet beams of God's mercy have shined upon him. Nor ever was there any set in so bright and clear a sunshine of God's favour but that some clouds have let fall showers of sorrows; if not in outward troubles, yet in regard of inward corruptions, yea, and in the thought or fear of some eclipse of that sunshine. Thus in greatest occasion of hearty thanksgiving there is just occasion of humble petition. And where there is most cause of humiliation, there is also much cause of exultation." --William Gouge (1575-1653)

13 A Debtor to Mercy Alone Note Rom 15:9 DocTrinsograce Sun 05/10/15, 8:29am 242204
  A debtor to mercy alone, of covenant mercy I sing;
Nor fear, with Thy righteousness on, my person and off'ring to bring.
The terrors of law and of God with me can have nothing to do;
My Savior's obedience and blood hide all my transgressions from view.
The work which His goodness began, the arm of His strength will complete;
His promise is Yea and Amen, and never was forfeited yet.
Things future, nor things that are now, nor all things below or above,
Can make Him His purpose forgo, or sever my soul from His love.
My name from the palms of His hands eternity will not erase;
Impressed on His heart it remains, in marks of indelible grace.
Yes, I to the end shall endure, as sure as the earnest is giv'n;
More happy, but not more secure, the glorified spirits in Heav'n.
--Augustus M. Toplady (1740-1778)

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