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1 SEEKING FOR THE TRUTH Note Matt 13:10 DocTrinsograce Sat 11/28/15, 3:16pm 242729
  Ma'am, click on your name. There will also be a link to update your profile. State in your profile which church you attend. Tell us some other things about yourself. We want to know, so that we can more rightly pray for you.
2 SEEKING FOR THE TRUTH Note Matt 13:10 DocTrinsograce Sat 11/28/15, 3:14pm 242728
  Here are a few notes from my seminary class in hermeneutics that might be of value, specifically dealing with sound parabolic interpretation:

Definition: A parable is a brief story drawn from human life or nature, not related to an actual event, but is true to life and, concerning the listeners, is given for the purpose of teaching a spiritual truth.


1. Parables teach a truth using the technique of similarity or illustration.

2. Parables are usually very short, thus they are intended to be easily remembered.

3. Parables can be described as simultaneously very simple and very complex.

4. Parables use earthly things as teaching instruments.

5. Parables have only one primary point.

6. Parables typically are composed of three parts: (1) the setting (cultural context); (2) a story; and (3) a spiritual application.

7. Parables are intended to teach faithful disciples.

8. Parables are intended to hide the truth from the disobedient.


1. Study the setting and the cultural background.

2. Read the story in its natural meaning. In other words, take it literally.

3. Determine the one central truth taught in the story. Learn to separate the unimportant details from the important issues. (Note that this isn't always an easy thing to do.)

4. Check to see if Jesus or other Scriptures interpret the parable for you. (Note: If Jesus gives an explanation, DO NOT look any for another!)

5. Check to see if the interpretation or point of a parable is dealt with in a doctrinal section of the scriptures, particularly the epistles. (This principle is called the Analogy of Faith.)

6. Check with good commentaries. (Use the commentaries to verify that your interpretation is not too far off from what is understood in Christian Biblical orthodoxy.)

7. Look for specific applications of the point of a parable to your own life. Apply what you discover to your life in a specific way.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Solid interpretation must ALWAYS precede application. You cannot apply what you do not understand.
3 SEEKING FOR THE TRUTH Note Matt 13:10 JeanineF Sat 11/28/15, 2:35pm 242727
  Good Afternoon...thank you for the welcome!

I believe you were asking about Matthew 13:10-13. Yes, Jesus does say that the parable is a sacred secret.

There seems to be several reasons for this parable or illustration, and the circumstances in which it was told.

1. He told the disciples, they were granted the ability to understand. Revealed by God's spirit to his christian servants. Notice, because they inquired why he did so, they were granted understanding. So he was looking for servants who hungered for the knowledge of God. Only then did he grant them understanding. Once, they given the meaning,they were not to keep the message a secret, but to proclaim it to others.

2. Once the meaning of the parable was explained to the disciples, they could clearly see the truth in the message, as each soil described different heart conditions. They were able to see it directly in how the crowds did not understand and did not inquire its meaning.

There, of course, was another aspect of Jesus statement, being, "sacred secrets". He did explain that Jehovah God will reveal the meaning in his time, to whom he chooses. This again, was understood by the disciples, due to the fact that the crowds in general didn't understand. As we see how knowledge gets dispensed at 1 Corinthians 2:6-16.

As for parables in general, sometimes they are not understood, even by the intended listener, until the point is made clear to them. At such a time, it can deeply touch their emotions, causing them to acknowledge and/or motivate change. We can clearly see this in the parable that Nathan told King David regarding the man who owned a single sheep and the rich man who had many, but took the only one the man with little means had. David responded, "this man deserves to die! And as we know, Nathan was making the reference to David himself. As seen at 2 Samuel 12:1-13.
4 SEEKING FOR THE TRUTH Note Matt 13:10 DocTrinsograce Sat 11/28/15, 12:18pm 242725
  Hi, Jeanine...

Welcome to the forum!

Based on your comment, "This [parables] was in an effort to help the listener understand the point more clearly." (sic) How then do you handle the following passage from Matthew?

"And the disciples came and said to Him, 'Why do You speak to them in parables?' Jesus answered them, 'To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. For whoever has, to him more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.'" (Matthew 10:10-13)

In Him, Doc
5 Christ Himself the Christians' Armory Note Eph 6:24 DocTrinsograce Sat 11/28/15, 12:07pm 242724
  "Christ Himself is the Christians' armory. When they put on Christ, they are then completely armed from head to foot. Are their loins girt about with truth? Christ is the truth. Have they put on the breastplate of righteousness? Christ is our right­eousness. Are their feet shod with the gospel of peace? Christ is our peace. Do they take the shield of faith, and helmet of salvation? Christ is that shield, and all our salvation. Do they take the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God? Christ is the Word of God.

"Thus they put on the Lord Jesus Christ; by his Spirit fight the fight of faith; and, in spite of humans, of devils, and of their own evil heart, lay hold of eternal life. Thus Christ is all in all. --John Bunyan (1628-1688)

6 Be Fearers of God Note Mal 3:5 DocTrinsograce Fri 11/27/15, 10:26am 242720
  "Doctrine: It is an indispensable duty incumbent on Christians to be fearers of God. 'Fear thou God' (Ecclesiastes 5:7). 'That thou mayest may fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD' (Deuteronomy 28:58). This goes to the very constituting of a saint. One can no more act as a Christian without fear, than he can act as a man without reason. This holy fear is the fixed temper and complexion of the soul; this fear is not servile but filial. There is a difference between fearing God, and being afraid of God; the godly fear God as a child does his father, the wicked are afraid of God as the prisoners is of the judge. This divine fear will appear admirable if you consider how it is mixed and interwoven with several of the graces." --Thomas Watson (1620-1686)

7 ...Lest you forget the Lord your God Note Deut 8:11 DocTrinsograce Thu 11/26/15, 10:38am 242719
  Thank you, Ed... I am praying that you and your family will have a blessed and happy Thanksgiving.
8 ...Lest you forget the Lord your God Note Deut 8:11 EdB Thu 11/26/15, 8:40am 242718
  AMEN! Good Word!
9 ...Lest you forget the Lord your God Note Deut 8:11 DocTrinsograce Wed 11/25/15, 4:01pm 242717
  Have a blessed Thanksgiving, but keep in mind:

"For the Lord your God is bringing you into a good land, fa land of brooks of water, of fountains and springs, flowing out in the valleys and hills, a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey, a land in which you will eat bread without scarcity, in which you will lack nothing, a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills you can dig copper. And you shall eat and be full, and you shall bless the Lord your God for the good land he has given you.

"Take care lest you forget the Lord your God by not keeping his commandments and his rules and his statutes, which I command you today, lest, when you have eaten and are full and have built good houses and live in them, and when your herds and flocks multiply and your silver and gold is multiplied and all that you have is multiplied, then your heart be lifted up, and you forget the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery." Deuteronomy 8:7-14
10 Constrained Note Ps 119:21 DocTrinsograce Tue 11/24/15, 4:06pm 242716
  "Therefore, they err in defect who acknowledge no authority or a very slight authority in confessions [creeds]; such are the neutrals and Libertines, who, to consult their own interests, profess nothing certain and determinate, but amid the conflicts of contradictions are undecided and fluctuate and, falling in with the winds of fortune, bend their sails to their influence. Their religion, consequently, you would properly call (if they have any) a monthly faith; nay, even a daily (hemerobion) or hourly. Unorthodox persons and heretics are such who, seeing that they are checked by such formulas as by a bridle that they may not scatter their errors to the winds, endeavor in every way, either openly, or secretly and by cunning, to destroy their authority." --Francis Turretin (1623-1687)

11 Of Communion Note 1 Cor 11:22 DocTrinsograce Sun 11/22/15, 1:07pm 242712
  "Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the visible elements in this ordinance, do then also inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally, but spiritually receive, and feed upon Christ crucified, and all the benefits of His death; the body and blood of Christ being then not corporally or carnally, but spiritually present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses. (1 Corinthians 10:16; 1 Corinthians 11:23-26)" --1689 LBCF 30.7

12 The Holiness of Their Pastor Note Rom 6:19 DocTrinsograce Sun 11/22/15, 10:18am 242711
  Thank you for the encouragement, Ed.

Let us, though we be many and diverse (2 Corinthians 6:2; Ephesians 2:13), yet pray for one another (James 5:16). May our sanctification be ever increasing, (Hebrews 2:11) while yet we live our God will be glorified (2 Thessalonians 1:11-12).
13 The Holiness of Their Pastor Note Rom 6:19 EdB Sun 11/22/15, 9:57am 242710
  Great admonishment! One we all need to mediate on!
14 Manumission Note Rev 17:17 EdB Sun 11/22/15, 9:56am 242709
  Great quote! Loved it!
15 Manumission Note Rev 17:17 DocTrinsograce Sat 11/21/15, 8:52am 242708
  "Free will I have often heard of, but I have never seen it. I have always met with will, and plenty of it, but it has either been led captive by sin or held in the blessed bonds of grace." --Charles H. Spurgeon

16 The Holiness of Their Pastor Note Rom 6:19 DocTrinsograce Fri 11/20/15, 2:49pm 242707
  "When asked what he felt was the greatest need of his congregation, Robert Murray McCheyne, beloved Scottish pastor of the 1800s, replied, 'The holiness of their pastor.' Such holiness requires a continuous consecration. But the danger of a careless handling of consecration extends to the layman as well: We are all more susceptible to any form of temptation when we have failed in consecration. Ongoing consecration is preventive medicine and a great deterrent of sin." --Clyde Cranford, from his book "Because We Love Him: Embracing a Life of Holiness"

17 Translation of "apeitheo" in the NASB Note Rom 11:30 BillTongue Thu 11/19/15, 6:38pm 242706
  justme! Thanks again for the contact info with Pike! He came through with flying colors.

Here I paste his response.

"We note that it is actually the noun that is used for "disobedience" in Rom 11:30 and the verb for "disbelieved" in Acts 14:2, but of course they have the same stem or root and the same meanings, and the verb also is used on Rom 11:30. As for the meanings, these words (i.e. the noun and verb) can refer equally to disobedience or disbelief, depending entirely on the context. One could also say that the disobedience referred to is essentially a technical term for the refusal to believe in Christ. In Rom 11:30 Paul most likely means "disobedient/disobedience" because the verb is used earlier in 10:21 where it translates a Hebrew word for rebellion. Acts 14:2 is a more difficult decision because it is not clear whether Luke was using the word in the technical sense of disobedience, or the general sense of disbelief, which would fit a historical work. The NASB translators decided that disbelief was more likely, but since the other meaning is also possible, they decided to include it as an option in a note."

The Romans 10 reference is especially important since Paul is quoting from the Septuagint, meaning that scholars saw that word as a Greek variant of "disobedience". When we have words used in the New Testament that correlate to something in the Old by way of the Septuagint, it should be very influential in how we understand the word, or in this case, words, both noun and verb.

All that being said...I believe I can make a contextual case for "disbelieve" and "unbelief" in every case. Look earlier in Romans 10, for example, and you will find some of Paul's most extravagant statements on faith and belief. Romans 11:30 comes at the end of a long discussion on the Jews unwillingness to trust in Jesus, so to make it clear what disobedience they were participating in, we should translate it in a way that makes it clear.

By the way...Paul had and used another word for "disobedience". Can you find it?
18 The Word which You Have Heard Note 1 John 2:7 DocTrinsograce Thu 11/19/15, 3:00pm 242705
  "We believe the holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are the Word of God, and are the only Rule of Faith, and Practice; all things being contained therein that are necessary for us to know concerning God, and our Duty unto Him, and also unto all Men. That all Persons ought to read, hear, and understand the holy Scriptures. That the Light of Nature [our reason], and Works of Providence [the observable creation], though they declare plainly there is a God, yet not so effectually as the holy Scriptures; nor can we know without them how, and in what space of time God created all things. Neither came we any other ways but by the holy Scriptures to the Knowledge of Christ the blessed Mediator; which indeed none can savingly know but by the Word and Spirit of God." --Benjamin Keach (1640-1704)

19 Biblical Christianity Note Rom 11:2 EdB Wed 11/18/15, 4:41pm 242701
20 Biblical Christianity Note Rom 11:2 DocTrinsograce Wed 11/18/15, 2:44pm 242700
  "Reformed Theology is just the nickname for Biblical Christianity." --Charles H. Spurgeon

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