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1 What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? Note Luke 6:16 EdB Wed 12/17/14, 9:00am 241735
  He took those that wanted to capture Jesus to Jesus and then he identified Jesus personally with a kiss.

Remember this was before photo's, TV, and such. I imagine many heard of Jesus but had no idea who he was or had ever seen Him.
2 What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? Note Luke 6:16 jeremiah1five Wed 12/17/14, 5:56am 241734
  I asked this question elsewhere and one person took me to a Scripture that seems to explain what Judas did that earned him the title/name of traitor. Thanks.
3 What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? Note Luke 6:16 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 9:25pm 241732
  Yes, but what did he do?
You post Scripture that says he betray Him but what did he do specifically?
4 Persevering in the Scriptures Note Acts 18:24 DocTrinsograce Tue 12/16/14, 4:45pm 241729
  "But what I am going to stress is the necessity for diligent and persevering searching of the Scripture; study whereby we shall turn and turn again the pages of Scripture; the study of prolonged thought and meditation by which our hearts and minds may become soaked with the truth of the Bible and by which the deep springs of thought, feeling and action may be stirred and directed; the study by which the Word of God will grip us, bind us, hold us, pull us, drive us, raise us up from the dunghill, bring us down from our high conceits and make us its bondservants in all of thought, life and conduct. The Word of God is a great deep; the commandment is exceeding broad; and so we cannot by merely occasional, hurried and perfunctory use of it understand its meaning and power." --John Murray (1945)
5 Does God cause people to get arrested ? Note Matt 24:9 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 11:28am 241722
  I see God as ordaining everything that comes to pass. He knows the end from the beginning because He ordained the end.
6 Obedience in Love? Note Lev 19:18 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 11:25am 241721
  I did not say we are to treat them with hate, only that we should be obedient and not treat them with love. God's love is Holy. The command is to not give that which is holy to dogs (non-Covenant.) The command is for brethren to love brethren. God doesn't give His Holy Love to non-Covenant. Not even God casts His Pearl, Jesus Christ, to swine. Neither should we.

God hates the unatoned sinner. It is this people that Christ comes to destroy. And He is successful, too. Thank God.
If you want to continue to love that which God hates that's on you. But for thousands of years God did not send the high priest to the heathens to pray and offer sacrifices for them. Think of the millions that God did not save nor atone and then tell me God loves all people the same. There have always been two groups of people in the world: Covenant and non-Covenant.

7 When will the Antichrist come ? Note 1 John 2:18 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 11:15am 241720
  How do you come to that conclusion when Scripture says that to deny Christ is antichrist?

1 John 2:22-26 (KJV)
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

If you want to apply this word to all cessationists then I have no problem with that. I prefer to believe the Scripture on this point and if millions of antichrists are out there, then the spirit of antichrist is thick in the world.
They may have a love for God, but they are seduced and deceived to have a love for God and deny Christ. Contradictory, don't you think?

Let them label me an antichrist. They have to bring their accusation to in accordance to Matthew 18:15. But just because they do not understand does not make me wrong. Israel had the same problem with prophets that God sent to them. The Church is no different. They murder the prophets God sends to them, too.
8 When will the Antichrist come ? Note 1 John 2:18 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 9:56am 241717
  So in effect you are saying all cessationist are anti christ.
In effect you are saying anyone that does not agree with your theology is a antichrist. You do not seem to consider any interpretation of scripture other than your own.
That can be a very dangerous position to be in.

Many Many Many past and present people take a similar position and would label you an antichrist according to their interpretation of scripture.

I disagree with cessationist but I believe they still have a real love for God and Christ.

Therefore I find your position shocking.
9 Obedience in Love? Note Lev 19:18 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 9:46am 241716
  For God so loved the world He sent his only Begotten Son.

Before Christ we all were sinners yet God loved us enough to send His Son to die for us. Jesus loved us enough to go to the cross for us.

If we meet a sinner and treat them with hate we are doing just the opposite of what Jesus did when he met with sinners. He even dined with them.

If God hated sinner then none of us would have been saved through an act of love.

Again loving the sinner is not loving the sin or even accepting or tolerating the sin.
10 Does God cause people to get arrested ? Note Matt 24:9 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 9:41am 241715
  I think the question is did God will it or did God allow it? You and I see the sovereignty of God differently. I see a God that allows sin to run it's course. If someone sins and falsely accuses some one then it was consequence of sin that put the person in jail. The thief on the cross as there by the consequence of sin. Yes God used him to testify of Jesus but the thief committed a sin and that was why he was on the cross.
11 When will the Antichrist come ? Note 1 John 2:18 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 8:54am 241714
  Matthew 24:24 (KJV)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

These false Christ's are not people that say they are Christ, but preach and say Jesus is the Christ. And through holding to your view of MacArthur who preaches the same message as Paul (death, resurrection, etc.), will do so and also deny the Life of Christ in His people (the Church) as MacArthur does and deceive many.

I am not deceived.

12 Does God cause people to get arrested ? Note Matt 24:9 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 8:50am 241713
  No, it does mean including miscarriages of justice. Jesus is a perfect example.
If God created the world and the people in it and it is "tainted" (actually, immersed is a better word) in sin, then God willed all that proceeds from that act, miscarriages and all. You cannot believe in a Sovereign God and the make excuses for things that occur that do not fit your understanding of God's righteousness and will. God is not looking the other way when one is falsely accused, arrested, prosecuted and convicted, especially if it is one of His own kids. He is directly and intimately involved. He even willed and orchestrated a thief receiving capital punishment on a cross. When is the last time that in the United States we execute a thief? But if God had not orchestrated these lives according to His will the thief on the cross would not hand with Jesus and not been promised paradise.
13 Obedience in Love? Note Lev 19:18 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 8:42am 241712
  There are many things the Word does not say implicitly that are and have become doctrine for the Church. An example is the Doctrine of the Trinity. It doesn't say in Scripture God is a Trinity but it does imply it through the comparison of Scripture and reason (Isa. 1:18).
If God hates His enemies (the world - which means non-Covenant individuals) will you commit treason to your King and love that which God hates? 1 John 2:15 is a perfect example. God doesn't love the non-Covenant world, those to whom in His perfect wisdom and knowledge did not choose from the foundation of the world, and He directly commands His people to not love the world (non-Covenant people) as He commanded Israel to not mingle with the nations (goyim) nor to learn THEIR WAYS.
A true believer does not contradict God nor oppose Him in any of His revealed Word. I suppose you also believe God loves everyone the same as He does His Church? If you say yes, God does loves everyone, Covenant and non-Covenant alike, then the question now is who are these people Christ is destroying at His second coming when He comes in God's wrath and righteousness and warring against the wicked? Is He destroying those He loves? That is NOT the love of God as Scripture declares it. God hates both sin and sinner if that sinner is not Elect of God and whose name is not in the book of life of the lamb slain from (BEFORE) the foundation (creation) of the world. Consider not loving that which God hates, nor hating that which God loves. To do so is to oppose God.
14 Obedience in Love? Note Lev 19:18 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 7:49am 241711
  I do not see how Lev 19:18 and Mt 5:44 produce a conflict for you. No where in the Leviticus passage did it say hate you enemy. That seemed to be added by man, and Jesus pointed out God never said hate your enemy.
15 Does God cause people to get arrested ? Note Matt 24:9 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 7:43am 241710
  I think the question was does God cause people to get arrested. My answer was arrest is the consequence of sin.

That does not mean that there aren't miscarriages of justice and that there may be people in jail are serving time for a crime they did not commit.

If we lived in a perfect world only those that committed the crime would be jailed. However this world has been tainted with sin.

However I don't think it was God's will for innocent people to be placed in jail.
16 When will the Antichrist come ? Note 1 John 2:18 EdB Tue 12/16/14, 7:38am 241709
  That is an interesting conclusion. One I don't agree with since he clearly preaches Christ crucified and resurrected for our sins.

Today we have people that move in the office of the apostle but they are not apostles. Likewise we have people that move in the office of the prophet but they are not prophets. I see most missionaries as moving in the office of apostle and likewise I see many ministers moving in the office of prophet as they fill their pastorial functions. I think MacArthur holds a similar view.
17 When will the Antichrist come ? Note 1 John 2:18 jeremiah1five Tue 12/16/14, 5:46am 241705
  John MacArthur as antichrist because he denies the Life of Christ in His people/Church. He denies the apostle and prophet (Eph. 4:11-12) and these are the Ministries of Christ in His people.
18 I'm curious. Why am I being muzzled? Note Deut 6:6 jeremiah1five Mon 12/15/14, 5:29pm 241704
  To restrict a thread as you have done is to restrict the Holy Spirit in that person. This, too, is a characteristic of antichrist and antichristian behavior. There are no secrets in the body of Christ, no shadows, no hidden corners. Everything is to be in the light that others may judge (1 Cor. 11:18-19). You need to repent of this and stop muzzling the Holy Spirit.
19 Does God cause people to get arrested ? Note Matt 24:9 jeremiah1five Mon 12/15/14, 5:26pm 241703
  Are there no innocent people in jail or prison? Are you of the "heart" that believes anyone arrested and accused of a crime, even if convicted of a crime and in prison, that if they are in prison they must be guilty?
20 Obedience in Love? Note Lev 19:18 jeremiah1five Mon 12/15/14, 5:24pm 241702
  So, you are saying that Christ changed the Law in Leviticus 19:18 to include the unsaved. We are to love those not in Covenant with God? That is to contradict the original command of God and to teach Jesus changed the Law.
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