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1 Correct Understanding of verses? Answer Bible general CDBJ Tue 11/10/09, 3:23pm
  Greetings,
When one mentions the law with regards to the Bible, few fail to notice that the Law of the Old Testament was broken up into parts known as,
Codex number one, Codex number two and Codex number three.
The proceeding covered all of the areas of the following and it is all considered the Law.
Moral code, Social code and the Ceremonial code.


Excerpts from (bible.com)
The Law of Moses Given to Israel
The Mosaic Law is what we are most concerned about in relation to the New Testament believer. This consisted of 365 negative commands and 248 positive for a total of 613 commands. These may also be divided into three parts or sections (see below)—the moral, the social, and the ceremonial. As such, it covered every possible area of the life of Israel. It should be stressed that the moral principles embodied in the Mosaic Law given at Sinai were merely the codified expression of the eternal moral law of God as it was given to Israel to govern her life as a nation in order to experience God’s blessing under the Abrahamic covenant. For more on this aspect, see below.
CDBJ

2 Correct Understanding of verses? Answer Bible general twlavista Thu 11/12/09, 2:13pm
  Dear justme,

Your statement, "Recently there has been some dialogue about this very subject. It pains me that those who believe the keeping of the LAW are so adamant that those who do not believe the way they do, are or as I understand their dialogue, not true believers."

Your statement is absolutely correct. Those who do this are those who believe in the "Law as a Rule of Life". And, like you, it pains me that so many new believers have been led down this erroneous path into a life of fear rather than a life of victory in Christ Jesus.

I believe you'll benefit from the words written by William Kelly taken from "The Writings of William Kelly". The final paragraph is particularly enlightening.

"Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ, let us press on unto full growth." The new status of the Christian depends on Christ dead, risen, and in heaven. The infinite sacrifice is already offered and accepted; and only so has Christ taken His seat on the right hand of the Majesty on high. We cannot therefore go to elements before the cross for that which forms and fashions the Christian. We, if full-grown, need the corn of the land, now that it is no longer a question of raining manna in the wilderness.

"For those that were once enlightened, and tasted the heavenly gift, and became partakers of the Holy Spirit, and tasted God's good word and powers of [an] age to come, and fell away, [it is] impossible to renew again unto repentance, crucifying for themselves as they do and putting to shame the Son of God. For land that drank the rain that often cometh upon it, and bringeth forth herbage meet for those for whose sake it is also tilled, partaketh of blessing from God; but Yielding thorns and thistles [it is] worthless and near a curse, the end of which [is] to be burned" (verses 4-8).


It is observable that we read here of enlightenment, not of new birth or eternal life. Undoubtedly the heavenly gift comes before us; and so it is not earthly like the associations of the Messiah, but "heavenly" because of contrast with Canaan hopes. How great a boon that God is now revealing heavenly grace! Further, it is not the old and essential truth of the Holy Spirit quickening a soul by the word, still less of now sealing the believer and for ever dwelling in him. We must not forget that He was sent down also to constitute the assembly of God's habitation; so that all introduced therein were in a general way partakers of the Spirit. Whoever bowed to the gospel tasted God's word as good, and received it with joy as of far different savour from that law which was a ministration of death and condemnation. twlavista



3 Correct Understanding of verses? Note Bible general justme Thu 11/12/09, 2:35pm
  TW;AVISTA: A VERY WARM WELCOME to the Study Bible Forum! Your response is a breath of fresh air, thank you. You articulate in a way much like our deal brother Hank did. I encourage you to participate in the forum, I believe you will find us to be a Biblically based conserative Christian community. We have welcomed anyone who abides by the Lockman Foundation stipulations. Thank you for information and again welcome.


justme
4 Correct Understanding of verses? Note Bible general DocTrinsograce Thu 11/12/09, 5:03pm
  Good quote.
5 Man and woman regard Marriage Answer Bible general DocTrinsograce Fri 11/13/09, 3:34pm
  Okay.
6 how I can Eat God's Words? Answer Bible general CDBJ Sat 11/14/09, 6:34pm
  Welcome to the forum.
The verse in Jer.
Jeremiah 15:16
Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
This is literally the intake of God Word Scripture.
The word in the Hebrew for eat is as follows from (STRONG’S)
'akal, Hebrew 398, Strong’s
'akal, aw-kal'; a primitive root; to eat (literal or figurative) at all, burn up, consume, devour (-er, up), dine, eat (-er, up), feed (with), food, freely, in...wise (-deed, plenty), (lay) meat, quite.
Before this is accomplished, one must be reborn of the Spirit. Have you come to this point yet in your spiritual walk?

Jesus said the following which ties into the verse in Jeremiah.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

That’s the intake of God’s word on a daily basis in order to sustain the new birth that God gives to those that put all of their hope for eternal life in the one that God sent; Jesus Christ, God’s uniquely born Son.
Have a great day and enjoy the forum, CDBJ
7 how I can Eat God's Words? Note Bible general DocTrinsograce Sat 11/14/09, 7:08pm
  Well answered, brother CDBJ!
8 Problems posting? Answer Bible general DocTrinsograce Sun 11/15/09, 3:47pm
  If you see this, then you may properly deduce that I am not having such problems. If someone can't post, I don't think you'll get a reply. :-)
9 Problems posting? Note Bible general justme Sun 11/15/09, 5:24pm
  Doc: To explain more fully any question that has more than a small paragraph simply will not post. Perhaps my computer is at fault. I can reall only once in eight years that the forum has experienced a problem that I am aware of.

I sincerely appreciate and respect your answers and notes you post. Often I find new and interesting thoughts that inspire me to dig deeper into a subject brought up. Thanks Doc!

justme
10 Problems posting? Note Bible general Dhaniei Zewditu Mon 11/16/09, 4:30pm
  Dear Justme,
If you think your computer may be at fault, you may want to download Ccleaner. It is especially good for people who spend alot of time online and it has NO spyware, adware, or any-ware type junk. I use it on a daily basis.
Dhaniei
11 what happen to Tamar after birth of twin Answer Bible general BMyers Tue 11/17/09, 2:07pm
  The Bible doesn't report anything else.
12 ... Note Bible general sabiha Wed 11/18/09, 10:45am
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13 Correct Understanding of verses? Answer Bible general Theodore A. Jones Fri 11/20/09, 9:42am
  "It is NOT those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who OBEY the law who will be declared righteous." Rom. 2:13
14 Correct Understanding of verses? Note Bible general srbaegon Fri 11/20/09, 12:16pm
  Hello,

Your quotation is accurate but taken out of context. As given here the quote appears to demonstrate that obey the law makes one righteous. That is not correct. Later, Paul writes:

Romans 3:19-20 (ESV)
Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. [20] For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

Since obeying the law does not justify anyone, how can Paul say that obedience to the law will justify? Paul's point in chapter two (as you follow it through to chapter four) is to make plain the fact that he is comparing the Jews who hear the law and do nothing because they really do not believe it to Gentiles who have not heard the law but instinctively do part of it. He is trying to point out that the high-minded Jews are no better than the barbarians mentioned in chapter one. Then he summarizes in chapter three that ALL men are sinners and we cannot do ANY work to justify ourselves.

Steve
15 how did david son die Answer OT general BMyers Wed 11/18/09, 6:00pm
  Which one?
16 How is Fri to Sun 3 days and nights? Answer NT general lionheart Thu 11/19/09, 12:24pm
  yaesmij,
Welcome to the forum. When you are researching calender dates oft times as is the case here any part of a day refered to will be counted as a whole. When taken in that context it fits.

In Him,
lionheart
17 How is Fri to Sun 3 days and nights? Answer NT general Searcher56 Thu 11/19/09, 3:40pm
  God's day to you, yaesmij, and welcome to the SBF,

The Bible dosen't say what day He died. I believe Friday is an error of tradition. The following is a repost of mine.

These are the events of His last week on earth. The Jewish day which starts at 6pm, so I indicated the day of the week as we see it. For example, (Th/Fr) is from Thursday 6pm to Friday 6pm for Nisan 8, the their day before the Sabbath (6th day of the week).

Nisan 8 (Th/Fr) - Jesus goes from Jericho to Bethany
(John 12:1).

"Jesus, therefore, six days before the Passover, came to Bethany." Passover is Nisan 14 (Exo 12:6-15)

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Nisan 9 (Fr/Sa) - Sabbath - Five days before the Passover ....
(John 12:9)

On the next day, "the great multitude therefore of the Jews learned that He was there (in Bethany); and they came, not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might also see Lazarus, whom He raised from the dead." While it was a Sabbath, people still could travel.

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Nisan 10 (Sa/Su) - Lamb Selection - Four days before the Passover ...
(Matt. 21:1-17, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:28-46, John 12:12-18)

"On the next day the great multitude who had come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, took the branches of the palm trees, and went out to meet Him, and began to cry out, "Hosanna! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel." (John 12:12-13) This "next day" is now known as Palm Sunday.

"He left them and went out of the city to Bethany where he spent the night" (Matt 21:17).

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Nisan 11 (Su/Mo) - Fig Tree Cursed - Three days before the Passover ...
(Matt 21:18-22, Mark 11:12-18, Luke 19:47).

On "the next day. . . ." (Mark 11:12). Also Matthew 21:18. Jesus cursed the barren fig tree and cleansed the Temple.

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Nisan 12 (Mo/Tu) - Olivet Discourse - Two days before the Passover ...
(Matt 21:23--25:46, Mark 11:19-13:37, Luke 20:1-21:38)

The next day, "as they were passing by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots up." (Mark 11:20) After a day at the Temple, Jesus gave His discourse on the Mount of Olives.

Mark 14:1-2 is still the same day. Matthew 26:2-5 is a cross reference, verse 2 says "You know that after two days the Passover is coming, and the Son of Man is to be delivered up for crucifixion."

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Nisan 13 (evening) (Tu) - At Simon's - One day before the Passover ...
(Matt 26:1-16, Mark 14:3-11, Luke 22:1-6, John 12:1-7).

That evening was the supper where Mary anointed Jesus for burial, and Judas went to the chief priests to betray Jesus.

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Nisan 13 (daytime) (We) - Preparing for the Passover
(Matt 26:17-19, Mark 14:12-16, Luke 22:7-13)

The phrase "First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread" can begin as early as Nisan 13 when leaven is removed from the homes.

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Nisan 14 (evening) (We) - Last Supper, Arrest and More
(Matt 26:20-27:10, Mark 14:17-72, Luke 22:14-71, John 13:1-18:27)

"When evening came" (Mark 14:17) The events after Jesus' arrest moved rapidly. He was brought briefly before Annas, and then led before Caiaphas and some elders.

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Nisan 14 (daytime) (Th) - Preparation Day/ Killing of The Lamb
(Matt 27:11-61, Mark 15:1-47, Luke 23:1-56, John 18:28-19:42)

Mark 15:1 says "Very early in the morning." John 18:28 says the Jews had not eaten the Passover, which would be that evening, Nisan 15.

He was buried before evening.

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Nisan 15 (Th/Fr) - Guard at the Tomb (High Sabbath)
(Matt 27:62-66) ... one day since His death (Luke 24:1)

Now since the Jews had eaten the Passover, they could go back to Pilate. They knew what He said, so they could have requested this when they were there before.

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Nisan 16 (Fr/Sa) - Weekly Sabbath
... two days since His death (Luke 24:1)

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Nisan 17 (Sa/Su) - First Day of the Week
... three days since His death (Luke 24:1)

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I posted more in post 81912
... enter 81912 under Quick Search to see why I think He died on Thursday.
18 How is Fri to Sun 3 days and nights? Note NT general justme Thu 11/19/09, 7:32pm
  Searcher56: I have read what you state in other places, however the majority view is any part of a day is considered as a day. I appreciate your depth of explination, but respectfully don't agree with it. We will have to ask the Lord someday how it really was. I enjoyed the fresh thought the dept and length of your point of view.
Blessing Searcher!



justme
19 How is Fri to Sun 3 days and nights? Note NT general Dhaniei Zewditu Fri 11/20/09, 12:45am
  Dear Searcher,
I must agree with you on the Friday thing (or Nissan 15) as this would be the first day of the 7 days of Unleavened Bread. This first day (whatever day it falls on each year is a Special Sabbath). Special Sabbaths have a few less restrictions to them (such as being able to prepare the meals, a bit more traveling distance, etc.) but the restrictions such as touching a corpse still applies.
If one follows the days, counting backwards, in the book of John (John 12:12-13, you quoted it yourself), we actually find that Yeshua's (Jesus) arrival in Jerusalem was not on a Friday, but on the Sabbath (most likely Fri. evening after sundown, but still to the Jew, on the 7th day, on the Sabbath). Then we have the 4 days that the Lamb was to be brought into the house and examined. (Again, you stated it!) It was a common term to call the Temple the House, and He was indeed examined for 4 days by the Pharisees, Saduccees, scribes and ordinary people for the next 4 days and was found to be without fault, spot or blemish. He was slaughtered on the 4th day of the week, the Saduccean Day of Preparation (this would be Weds. when the earth was covered in darkness).
(The Pharisaic Day of Preparation fell on the next day, according to the time the very first meal was eaten in Egypt, which was around midnight on the 15th of Nisan.)
This would put our Lamb in the tomb sometime before sunset on Weds. evening to the time just after sundown on Saturday (a time the Jews call Havdalah, a very short period of time where heaven and earth touch, where the holy merges just for an instant with the common as we leave the holy for the mundane of the coming work week[just a tradition, but a very profound tradition]). Within a few short hours, very early on Sunday morning at dawn, there is the wondrous finding of an empty tomb!!

So, we have Weds pm to Thurs am equaling 1 night.
We have Thurs pm to Fri am equaling 1 night.
And we have Fri pm to Sat am equaling 1 night. 3 Nights.

We have Thurs am to Thurs pm equaling 1 day.
We have Fri am to Fri pm equaling 1 day.
We have Sat am to Sat pm equaling 1 day. 3 Days.

He was never actually in the tomb on Sunday, He had risen, His empty tomb was discovered on this wonderful day.
Dhaniei
20 what can be offered as a burnt offering. Answer Leviticus BMyers Tue 11/17/09, 2:12pm
  Leviticus is a good book to read concerning burnt offerings.
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