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1 can iuse www.studybible Answer Bible general Archive 3 DocTrinsograce Sat 05/27/06, 10:04am 172886
  Dear Ampern,

You CAN if you like, whether it is something you OUGHT to do is another matter. :-) The majority of those participating in the forum are laity rather than clergy. Furthermore, we're a pretty motley crew when it comes to theology and Biblical literacy.

You are, of course, welcome to search the forum archives for things that might be useful. Also, you can ask questions. However, you might want to take what you read here with a grain of salt – and a huge amount of prayer. Search the Scriptures to see if the things you read here are true.

The health of the flock that God has entrusted with you is your primary concern. You will stand before God to give an account for how you discharge this stewardship, therefore it is important for you to ascertain the quality of your sources.

In Him, Doc
2 Pastor preaches about men body parts! Answer Luke 22:26 Hank Sat 05/27/06, 11:47pm 172915
  Dear Bereaniam: Judging from your description of the content of your pastor's excursions into self-aggrandisement and strong personal opinions, it would appear that he has taken leave of preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ in favor of the gospel of chauvinism. Yes, I'd speak politely but vigorously in disfavor of his attitudes, his distasteful usage of coarse language, and his insertion of scripturally unfounded bias and personal opinion into his sermons. If it is as you say, he is abusing his office and should be dealt with according to disciplinary principles laid down in Scripture pertaining to church government. The fact that your pastor does not like to be critiqued is academic; it has no real bearing on the situation; and it should not deter your taking decisive and appropriate action in accordance with the prevailing polity of your denomination. It would appear that the strict application of Paul's charge to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4:1-5 would benefit both the preacher and the congregants whom he has been called to shepherd. Thank you for sharing your burden with us at SBF and I meet your deep-felt concerns with a great deal of empathy and with fervent prayer on behalf of you and your husband, your pastor, and the church of which you are a member. May God richly bless you all. --Hank
3 Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? Note Luke 23:43 DocTrinsograce Mon 05/29/06, 3:55pm 172970
  "The failure to preach the true nature of the gospel results in the creation of untold spiritual miseries. Men fail to turn to God for their present salvation, since they know it can be purchased later; they fail to live a holy life now, since they know that their sins can be expiated by later efforts. They labor in spiritual solidarity with the dead through senseless devotions, masses, candles, prayers, pilgrimages, and rites, hoping to transfer merit to those who are either beyond hope, or who are presently in bliss. And they are unaware, that bankrupt in their own sins, they have no merit to transfer. They blaspheme the gospel with their indulgent works of supererogation; they attempt to buy the Holy Spirit's gift through pious effort. Purgatory produces a gospel of works extended into the afterlife. Not content to live a life of Semi-Pelagian heresy in this world, they extend it into the next. 'The moment a coin in the coffer pings, out from purgatory a sinner springs.' No wonder Luther penned his angry theses." --James Sauer

"When man postulates that there is another way to atone for sins, apart from what the word of God says, then they have departed from the God of the Bible and become gods unto themselves. And let's not mince words here, the extrabiblical doctrine of Purgatory is based upon the purging of sin therein. And all false teachings have this one thing in common. The fact that their 'source' is not the written word of God alone, but the Bible plus some other additional authority. That additional authority could be a man considered holy, the Church, another book, or divine revelations. By contrast, the true gospel of Christ is prescribed by the Christian's dependence on the word of God alone as the ultimate authority for truth." --Tony Warren

"The doctrine of Purgatory, in effect, is saying that we must suffer in purgatory for sins not ‘covered by baptism’ and not covered by the cross. It is to say that the work of Christ is not finished and that there are things we must do to complete the sacrificial, cleansing work of Christ. This amounts to earning heaven by our good works, albeit, a work of suffering. Additionally, the doctrine of Purgatory implies that a person must atone for his own sins. It implies that the person must do more than what the Law of God requires of him. This is called supererogation. When Jesus said, 'It is finished,' all that was necessary in the atonement was concluded and all in Christ were justified. We cannot complete or add to Christ’s work through our suffering. Purgatory is not only unnecessary, but it contradicts God’s word." --Matt Slick
4 Dear God, i missed YOU (?)Answered 2 Tim 2:15 corin Tue 05/30/06, 1:53am 173001
Why GOD remain silent all the time?

Prayer is the free hotline for us to reach God through Jesus Christ?

5 Dear God, i missed YOU Answer 2 Tim 2:15 BradK Tue 05/30/06, 10:31am 173019

God speaks to us primarliy through His Word. But, the circumstances in our life can also reflect His answer(s) and I do believe He speaks to us indirectly through other mature believers. (Wisdom in a multitiude of counsellors). Our responsibility is to , 1. seek Him; 2. study His Word; and 3. be devoted to prayer.

Keep seeking Him and He will answer you, my friend. But remember, the when and how is up to the Lord Himself!

Speaking the Truth in Love,

6 God and His creation Note 1 Cor 7:1 Lampstand Tue 05/30/06, 11:49pm 173042
  The expression “not to touch a woman” here means avoiding physical contact with a woman for sexual gratification. Since Paul had already condemned fornication, he was now referring to sexual relations within the marriage arrangement. Therefore, Paul was now recommending the single state. (1 Corinthians 6:9, 16, 18; compare Genesis 20:6; Proverbs 6:29.) A little further on, he wrote: “Now I say to the unmarried persons and the widows, it is well for them that they remain even as I am.” (1 Corinthians 7:8) Paul was unmarried, perhaps a widower.—1 Corinthians 9:5.

Likely the Christians in Corinth had come into contact with Greek philosophy, of which certain schools lauded extreme asceticism, or self-denial. Might that have been why the Corinthians asked Paul if it would be “well” for Christians to avoid all sexual intercourse? Paul’s answer did not reflect Greek philosophy. (Colossians 2:8) Unlike Catholic theologians, he nowhere recommended a celibate ascetic life in a monastery or convent, as if single persons were particularly holy and could contribute to their own salvation by their life-style and prayers.

Paul recommended singleness “in view of the necessity here with us.” (1 Corinthians 7:26) He might have been referring to the difficult times Christians were going through, which could be compounded by marriage. (1 Corinthians 7:28) His counsel to unmarried Christians was: “It is well for them that they remain even as I am.” To widowers, he stated: “Are you loosed from a wife? Stop seeking a wife.” Of a Christian widow, he wrote: “She is happier if she remains as she is, according to my opinion. I certainly think I also have God’s spirit.”—1 Corinthians 7:8, 27, 40.

No Compulsion to Remain Single

God’s holy spirit was undoubtedly guiding Paul when he gave this counsel. His whole presentation of celibacy and marriage shows balance and restraint. He does not make it a matter of faithfulness or unfaithfulness. It is, rather, a question of free choice, with the balance tipping in favor of singleness for those who are able to remain chaste in that state.

Immediately after stating “it is well for a man not to touch a woman,” Paul added: “Yet, because of prevalence of fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband.” (1 Corinthians 7:1, 2) After advising unmarried persons and widows to “remain even as I am,” he was quick to add: “But if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed with passion.” (1 Corinthians 7:8, 9) Again, his counsel to widowers was: “Stop seeking a wife. But even if you did marry, you would commit no sin.” (1 Corinthians 7:27, 28) This balanced counsel reflects freedom of choice.

Paul showed that both marriage and singleness are gifts from God. “I wish all men were as I myself am. Nevertheless, each one has his own gift from God, one in this way, another in that way.” (1 Corinthians 7:7) He doubtless had in mind what Jesus said. After establishing that marriage came from God, Jesus showed that willing singleness for the sake of serving Kingdom interests is a particular gift: “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs that were born such from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs that were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs that have made themselves eunuchs on account of the kingdom of the heavens. Let him that can make room for it make room for it.”—Matthew 19:4-6, 11, 12.
7 Any thoughts on drawing near to god? Answer Is 29:13 Hank Sat 06/3/06, 6:17pm 173230
  It's reciprocal: "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you" (James 4:8). What a blessed thought! ..... Note the reciprocity at play between the errant son and his father in Jesus' parable of the lost son, Luke 15:11-32. ....... "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land" (2 Chronicles 7:14). Originally given to Solomon regarding Israel, this promise applies still to everyone who will call on the Lord in repentance and faith. As in days of old, God stands in loving readiness today to hear the prayers of a penitent people and to draw near to them who draw near to Him. ...... Jesus said, "Behold I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me" (Revelation 3:20). ....... I pray that in these verses you will be able to find additional illumination to your study of your chosen topic. --Hank
8 Maybe some are not really saved? Answer Acts 16:1 Searcher56 Tue 06/6/06, 7:30am 173315
  Scripture Romans 10:9-10 "If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation" ...

God's day to you, CDBJ,

One of my fears is that people believe they believe/ think they are saved because of what they have been taught ... even beyond "works" and "heritage" (Phi 3:5-7) … it is ideas of saying a prayer, coming forward, or other external actions is what saves. While we do need to “confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord” … are we taught what confession is and Lordship … beyond the words?

I think we need to “believe in your heart” first, else the words are empty. Methinks people don’t explain this fully either … and some want numbers. I think many will be the ones who Christ does not know (Mat 7:21-23), because they were mistaught and they did not check out Scripture to see if what they heard lines up (Act 7:14).

Yes, there are other Scriptures ... even in Romans, where it talks about whose slave we are.

9 Hear God Answer John 10:27 Jagfire Tue 06/6/06, 8:43am 173322
  Spend quality time daily in prayer and Bible study. The more time you spend intimately with God and His Word the easier it will be to recognize His voice and direction in your life.

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me" -John 10:27
10 promised nothing? Answer James 1:7 ra_Jesus_is_Savior Wed 06/7/06, 12:03pm 173379
  Maybe this Bible version will help you understand.

James 1:5-8 "If you don't know what you're doing, pray to the Father. He loves to help. You'll get his help, and won't be condescended to when you ask for it. Ask boldly, believingly, without a second thought. People who "worry their prayers" are like wind-whipped waves. Don't think you're going to get anything from the Master that way, adrift at sea, keeping all your options open." - James 1:5-8 (The Message)
11 FASTING/PRAYING Answer Bible general Archive 3 ra_Jesus_is_Savior Wed 06/7/06, 3:52pm 173385
  Scripture does not command Christians to fast. It is not something that God requires or demands of Christians. At the same time, the Bible presents fasting as something that is good, profitable, and expected. The Book of Acts records believers fasting before they made important decisions (Acts 13:4; 14:23). Fasting and prayer are often linked together (Luke 2:37; 5:33). Too often, the focus of fasting is on the lack of food. Instead, the purpose of fasting should be to take your eyes off the things of this world, and instead focus on God. Fasting is a way to demonstrate to God, and to yourself, that you are serious about your relationship with Him. Fasting helps you to gain a new perspective and a renewed reliance upon God.

Although fasting in Scripture is almost always a fasting from food, there are other ways to fast. Anything you can temporarily give up in order to better focus on God can be considered a fast (1 Corinthians 7:1-5). Fasting should be limited to a set time, especially when the fasting is from food. Extended periods of time without eating are harmful to the body. Fasting is not intended to punish your flesh, but to focus on God. Fasting should not be considered a “dieting method” either. Do not fast to lose weight, but rather to gain deeper fellowship with God. Yes, anyone can fast. Some may not be able to fast from food (diabetics for example), but everyone can temporarily give up something in order to focus on God.

By taking our eyes off the things of this world, we can focus better on Christ. Fasting is not a way to get God to do what we want. Fasting changes us, not God. Fasting is not a way to appear more spiritual than others. Fasting is to be done in a spirit of humility and a joyful attitude. Matthew 6:16-18 declares, “When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

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12 double-minded? Answer James 1:8 smallmustardseed Wed 06/7/06, 7:27pm 173402
  Here are some different versions of the scripture to help you underdand.

NIV v7-8If you are that kind of person, you can't make up your mind, and you surely can't be trusted. So don't expect the Lord to give you anything at all.

NKJV 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I think the Message Bible tells it best:
vv. 5-8If you don't know what you're doing, pray to the Father. He loves to help. You'll get his help, and won't be condescended to when you ask for it. Ask boldly, believingly, without a second thought. People who "worry their prayers" are like wind-whipped waves. Don't think you're going to get anything from the Master that way, adrift at sea, keeping all your options open.

Then there is James 4:8 that further describes it.
James 4: 8Draw near to God and He will draw near to you Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
13 Difference backsliden or not saved? Note 2 Cor 13:5 DocTrinsograce Wed 06/7/06, 7:50pm 173409
  Dear Brother Mark,

You asked, "What passages of Scripture show us regeneration occuring in people before Jesus died?" (sic)

That's a very good question. Thank you for asking it. As I prayerfully considered how best to answer your question, I realized that your discomfort with my language is probably rooted in an assumption. You are thinking, I believe, that when I use the term regeneration for all of the saints that I am speaking of the same subjective, salvific process, without regard to the epoch in which a man is born. I will try to clarify, Lord willing.

Let's begin with a sound, Biblical definition of the word regeneration (i.e., the new genesis or new birth).

James I. Packer wrote, "Regeneration is the spiritual change wrought in the heart of man by the Holy Spirit in which his/her inherently sinful nature is changed so that he/she can respond to God in Faith, and live in accordance with His will (Matthew 19:28; John 3:3,5,7; Titus 3:5). It extends to the whole nature of man, altering his governing disposition, illuminating his mind, freeing his will, and renewing his nature."

In my own tradition we carefully define regeneration as "a change of heart, wrought by the Holy Spirit, who quickeneth the dead in trespasses and sins enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the Word of God, and renewing their whole nature, so that they love God and practice holiness. It is a work of God's free and special grace alone." (Abstract of Principles, 1858)

B. H. Carroll, a Southern Baptist theologian, spoke of regeneration as follows: "There is, first of all, a direct influence of the Holy Spirit on the passive spirit of the sinner, quickening him or making him sensitive to the preaching of the Word. In this the sinner is passive. But he is not a subject of the new birth without contrition, repentance and faith. In exercising these he is active. Yet even his contrition is but a response to the Spirit's conviction, and the exercise of his repentance is but a response to the Spirit's conviction, and the exercise of his repentance and faith are but responses to the antecedent spiritual graces of repentance and faith."

The fact that men like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. had faith is indicative or evidential of God's redeeming work in their hearts. We even see in places like Ezekiel 11:19; 36:26-27, Jeremiah 31:31-34, etc. discussions in which the stone-hearted sinner must obtain a divine heart transplant before they are able to do anything for Him.

"Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God." (John 8:47 ESV)

If you know that He is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of Him. (1 John 2:29 ESV)

[Note: As you know, we always read the OT in the light of NT.]

Now, when we speak of the saints in the Old Testament, we may rightful speak of their salvation; i.e., that they are regenerate. That does not mean,however, that the experiential [note: that is a theological term, not the Charismatic term] aspect of their regeneration was the same as believers today. We read, "These [OT saints] all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. (Hebrews 11:13 ESV)" There are many benefits of the new covenant that believers today enjoy. For example, the operation of the Holy Spirit in our lives is far more intimate and direct. (We receive the Spirit in anticipation of our resurrection. He is our surety.)

Throughout the Scriptures we see that God has a people. He works providentially in their lives by invading history at just the right time. The story of redemption unfolds through time in various covenants and economies. Nevertheless, as God's eternal purpose is fulfilled, all those who belong to Him are saved in precisely the same way: by grace alone, through faith alone in the Word of God alone, by the power of the Spirit alone, in the atonement of Christ alone.

Help me, O LORD my God! Save me according to Your steadfast love! Let them know that this is Your hand; You, O LORD, have done it! (Psalms 109:26-27 ESV)

In Him, Doc
14 Resisting temptation Note James 4:7 DocTrinsograce Thu 06/8/06, 4:35am 173420
  Dear Tuggy,

I am grateful for the spirit with which you seek to help. Our problem, however, is not in exercising the will, our problem is in the heart, from which all action flows.

So very much to be said on this topic!

There is a great classic, though difficult to read, called "A Christian Soldier, Taking Heaven by Storm," By Thomas Watson. Below are a few quotes from that work.

In Him, Doc

When zeal like incense burns, first the lamp of knowledge must be lighted.

The reason so many have been tricked into error is because they either did not know, or did not love, the truth.

This is the first thing in holy violence: resolution of their will; I will have heaven whatever it costs me and this resolution must be in the strength of Christ.

The pampering of the flesh, is the quenching of God's spirit.

The flesh inclines us more to believe a temptation than a promise

Jesus Christ went more willingly to the cross than we do to the throne of grace. Had not we need then provoke ourselves to duty?

We must not read these holy lines [Scripture] carelessly, as if they did not concern us, or run over them hastily, as Israel ate the passover in haste; but peruse them with reverence and seriousness.

Read the word as a book made by God Himself. It is given 'by divine inspiration' 2 Tim. iii.16. It is the library of the Holy Ghost.

How far are they from offering violence to themselves in hearing, who come to the word in a dull, drowsy manner, as if they came to church to take a receipt to make them sleep. The word is to feed; it is strange to sleep at meat. The word judgeth men: it is strange for a prisoner to fall asleep at the bar.

Prayer is a lifting up of the mind and soul to God, which cannot be done aright without offering violence to one-self. The names given to prayer imply violence. It is called wrestling, Gen. xxxii. 24. and a pouring out of the soul, 1 Sam. i. 15.

Those prayers God likes best which come seething hot from the heart.

Satan tempts to sin gradually. As the husbandman digs about the root of a tree, and by degrees loosens it, and at last it falls. Satan steals by degrees into the heart: he is at first more modest

Faith holds the promise in one hand, and Christ in the other

If Christ thought the soul was worth the shedding of His blood, well may we think it worth spending our sweat.

Men could be content to have the kingdom of Heaven; but they are loathe to fight for it. They choose rather to go in a feather bed to Hell than to be carried to Heaven in a ‘fiery chariot’ of zeal and violence.

To serve God, to love God, to enjoy God, is the sweetest freedom in the world.

Satan doth sow most of his seed of temptation in hearts that lie fallow. When he sees persons unemployed, he will find work for them to do.

Men throw off all violence and degenerate into apostasy because they never did duties of religion with delight. Paul delighted in the law of God in the inward (Rom. 7:22). It was his heaven to serve God. A man who delights in pleasure will never surrender. But the apostate never had any true delight in the ways f God; he was rather forced with fear than drawn with love; he served a Master whom he never cared for. No wonder then that he leaves His service.
15 Respecting and Neighbors Answer Phil 4:6 ra_Jesus_is_Savior Thu 06/8/06, 4:42pm 173450
  My advice to you is to keep Phillippians 4:6 in mind, "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God". Here Paul's advice is to turn your worries into prayers.

Ask Him for guidance, help, wisdom, on this type of situation.

16 Is being slain in the Spirit biblical? Note Bible general Archive 3 ra_Jesus_is_Savior Thu 06/8/06, 7:04pm 173457
  Being slain in the Spirit is a religious phenomenon that occurs in many contemporary Charismatic or Pentecostal church meetings. Many prefer to refer to the phenomenon as "falling under the Spirit's power", "falling before the Lord" or "resting in the Spirit". Although any personal encounter with God's glory and power can result in one falling, typically, being "slain in the Spirit" is associated with occasions of public prayer ministry when the laying on of hands is practiced. In such settings, church members or attendees come forward to the front of the church to receive a special work of the Holy Spirit from the Pastor or service leader. Often a significant amount of time is spent singing and praying during the church service before this point. Attendees are then prayed over and touched by the service leader, the Spirit of God "comes upon them", and they fall -- usually onto their backs. In most cases, their fall is broken by deacons, catchers, ushers or orderlies behind them to prevent injury. In the context of this experience, many Christians believe that they have been healed or given a special blessing by God. Others report seeing visions or hearing God's voice.
17 Can you say "you can be saved" to anyone Note Acts 17:30 mark d seyler Fri 06/9/06, 11:07am 173479
  Is your Gospel available to all?

Act 17:30 Truly, then, God overlooking the times of ignorance, now strictly commands all men everywhere to repent,

John 1:12 "But as many as received Him, to them He gave authority to become children of God, to the ones believing into His name,"
"Received" here is in the active voice. It is an action done by the one who will then be given the right to become a child of God. If we receive Him, we will be saved. If we do not receive Him, we will not.

Act 2:38 And Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, each of you on the name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Act 3:19 Therefore, repent, and convert, for the blotting out of your sins, so that times of refreshing may come from the face of the Lord,

In the Scriptures of salvation, repentance always comes first. Salvation is always described in the Bible as something entered into by the recipient. The assumption that salvation comes before man repents, and commits to the Lord, is not found in the Bible.

Many will tell you that man is unable to react or respond in any way until God makes them alive, and so that God selects those He wishes to save, gives them spiritual life, and because of the spiritual life He has given them they will now want to repent, and be saved, though in fact, according to this model, they are at this point already saved, before having repented of their sins.

The dark side of this teaching is the doctrine that every person who will spend eternity in the lake of fire will be there because God choose them to be there. By not choosing to save them, He defacto chooses them for damnation. But this is not what the Bible teaches. It is only man that teaches that.

There are a number of verses showing that salvation is conditional upon man.

Just a few:

Rom 10:9 Because if you confess (homologeo - say the same) the Lord Jesus with your mouth, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses unto salvation.

This is a prescriptive passage that tells us how to be saved. This means that we agree with God that Jesus is Lord, and not making a false confession, believing in our heart that God raised Jesus from the dead (believing in His ability to do so, and the rightfulness of that action). But no matter what these things, "confessing the Lord Jesus with your mouth," and "believing in your heart tha God raised Him from the dead", both of these come before, and are conditional of, salvation.

This passage does not say, for instance, if you confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you HAVE BEEN saved. This is not a demonstration of salvation, but is a prerequisite to salvation, regeneration, the new birth.

Rom 10:13 For everyone, "whoever may call on the name of the Lord will be saved."
Rom 10:14 How then may they call on One into whom they have not believed? And how may they believe One of whom they have not heard? And how may they hear without preaching?
Rom 10:15 And how may they preach if they are not sent?

If salvation were an autonomous unilateral work of God, Paul didn't seem to understand that. Again, this says "whoever may call on the name of the Lord WILL BE saved," not "HAS BEEN saved." But beyond that, the progression is clear - salvation comes from calling on the Name of the Lord, calling comes from believing, believing comes from hearing, hearing comes from preaching, and preaching comes from being sent.

2Co 5:20 Then on behalf of Christ, we are ambassadors, as God is exhorting through us, we beseech on behalf of Christ, Be reconciled to God.
Why would Paul beseech us to be reconciled to God if some would, some wouldn't, and we had nothing to do with it?

Any understanding of how salvation works that does not take into account these Scriptures must be faulty.

1Timothy 2
1 First of all then, I exhort that petitions, prayers, supplications, and thanksgivings be made on behalf of all men,
2 for kings and all the ones being in high position, that we may lead a tranquil and quiet existence in all godliness and dignity.
3 For this is good and acceptable before God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to a full knowledge of truth.

Does this say “God desires some to be saved and some to burn”? No, it does not. It tells us God desires all to be saved. If it were God’s sovereign choice that certain men were to be cast into the lake of fire, would not the fulfillment of His Own will please Him? And yet He says, Eze 18:32 For I do not have delight in the death of him who dies, declares the Lord Jehovah. So turn and live.

Turn and live. Not, “be turned” and live. Turn and Live!

Love in Christ,
18 Did God Choose You For the Lake of Fire? Note 1 Tim 2:4 mark d seyler Fri 06/9/06, 3:45pm 173490
  1Ti 2:1 First of all then, I exhort that petitions, prayers, supplications, and thanksgivings be made on behalf of all men,
1Ti 2:2 for kings and all the ones being in high position, that we may lead a tranquil and quiet existence in all godliness and dignity.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable before God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to a full knowledge of truth.

There are many people who would use many words to tell you that God set out from the beginning with the full and express intention of casting the majority of mankind into the lake of fire to be tormented forever, without any hope or possibility of escape or reprieve.

Is this what your Bible teaches you? This is not what my Bible teaches me.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I guess they think that God only loved a small part of the world.

They will tell you that God chose what would happen, and decided everything in advance. That one man is saved, and another dies in their sins, is predetermined by God.

Eze 33:11 Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord Jehovah, I do not have delight in the death of the wicked, except in the wicked turning from his way, and so to live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! For why will you die, O house of Israel?

Is that what your Bible teaches you, or is that just what man teaches?

Love in Christ,
19 Witnessing Answer 1 Pet 3:15 DocTrinsograce Sat 06/10/06, 5:25pm 173533
  Dear Bliss,

There's no magic formula in witnessing. God hasn't called us to formulas, methods, and techniques. The Holy Spirit operates uniquely in every person. There was a day when you could present the Gospel from the Word of God and people would respond to its authority. Most folks today are influenced strongly by post-modernism. Consequently they are reached much more effectively through relationship. Prayer, Bible Study, and full submission to the Lord will equip you with what is necessary to give an answer to every man.

In Him, Doc

"Forcing tactics can only do damage, perhaps incalculable damage, to men's souls... Evangelism must rather be conceived as a long-term enterprise of patient teaching and instruction, in which God's servants seek simply to be faithful in delivering the gospel message and applying it to human lives, and leave it to God's Spirit to draw men to faith through this message in his own way and at his own speed." --James I. Packer

"We must recognize the different types of persons, and we must learn to discriminate between them. There is nothing so pathetic or so unscriptural as a mechanical way of testifying to others. There are some Christians who are guilty of that. They witness and testify, but they do it in a thoroughly mechanical way. They never really consider the person with whom they are dealing; they never try to assess the person, or to discover exactly what his position is. They fail completely to implement this exhortation. They present the truth in exactly the same way to all and sundry. Quite apart from the fact that their testifying is generally quite useless, and that the only thing they achieve is a great feeling of self-righteousness, it is utterly unscriptural." --Martyn Lloyd-Jones
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