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Results from: Answered Questions, Answers, Unanswered Questions, Notes
Contents include: "prayer"
On or After: Monday, February 9, 2009
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How Holy Is Marriage? |
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Matt 16:6 |
KcabmI4 |
Tue 02/10/09, 10:22pm |
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Dear Val
Maby you missed it in the (KJ) so Iam posting these from the (NASB) Iam also going to add some Brackets for you where I quoted thes verses.
Num.14:18 (New American Standard Bible)
18- 'The LORD is slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression;
:-(but He will by no means clear the guilty,)-: visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations.'
Exodus 34:7 (New American Standard Bible)
7- who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet
:-(He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished,)-: visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."
You then go on to say
.” Notice in Psalms 52 David was forgiven, his sin was covered, and in verse five “You forgave the guilt of my sin.”
This scripture does not sound correct does it?
Psalm 52:5 (New American Standard Bible)
5- But God will break you down forever;He will snatch you up and tear you away from your tent,
And uproot you from the land of the living. Selah.
That is ok I looked for the right one and found the one you really meant. But we are not knowing when Psalm 32 was written. It could be before or after the time in question.
Psalm 32:5
5- I acknowledged my sin to You,And my iniquity I did not hide;I said, " I will confess my transgressions to the LORD";And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.
You then come to Psalm 51
"In Psalms 51 David was washed and made whiter than snow, verse seven."
Psalm 51 (New American Standard Bible) A Contrite Sinner's Prayer for Pardon.
7- Purify me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
You should take the time and go back to the Psalm 51. You will then be seeing all the way from vs.1
to the last vs. are all the pleadings for mercy.
Iam sure that God did forgive David. It says he would in Num.14:18 and 34:7.
Your parigraph about David I do not dispute
He is a most revered man
He was a man after God’s own heart
David’s son with Bathsheba was chosen to be King – Solomon
God made an everlasting covenant with David.
Jesus is referred to as being in the lineage of David.
But these are also true
David committed adultery with Bathsheba
David murdered Uriah
David's first son with Bathsheba died because of the (SINS of the FATHER) otherwise "HE" would have been the next King
This is another covenant made by God with David.
Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house
I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house
I will take thy wives before thine eyes and give them unto thy neighbour and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.
The child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
You are saying
"The consequences of sin touched David’s family his remaining life."
You are sure right with that statement according to the story we are discussing.
"but each man/women was held responsible for their choices and decisions"
Can you verify this statement with scripture?
You finish with the quote I gave from Ex.34:7
But you add "The YLT leaves out “the guilty”. "I believe that makes a big difference."
Exodus 34:7 (Young's Literal Translation)
7- keeping kindness for thousands, taking away iniquity, and transgression, and sin, and not entirely acquitting, charging iniquity of fathers on children, and on children's children, on a third [generation],
and on a fourth.'
Just the leaving out "the guilty" does not change the fact of who is paying for the sin "not the father."
He is punished by having to watch everyone else pay for his sin. Iam sorry if the translation I used did
not meat up to your standards. But guilt was used in the bible I used and there would not be anyone paying for sin if there was not anyone "GUILTY."
But that is ok with me . Go ahead and leave out GUILT. It took you 3 different bibles to get there.
Tell me is the (YLT) your bible of prefferance? Or is it just the one you use when all else fails?
Sincerely, KcabmI4 |
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Love for all, judge not anyone |
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OT general |
humbledbyhisgrace |
Sun 02/15/09, 1:30pm |
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Dear lookinforacity, matt1078, Nevvvvine, KcabmI4,
and who ever you may log onto this forum as next, I would encourage you to prayerfully consider the passage of scripture below. Pay close attention to verse 6, 7 and 9!
1 John 1:5-9 (NASB)
1:5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Steve |
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Gods Love and Grace for you. |
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John 3:16 |
stjohn |
Sun 02/15/09, 9:10pm |
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Dear kcabmI4
You have my forgiveness.
And my prayers.
I hold nothing against you.
Unfortunately, that may not have much to do with your tenure at the forum, as others, I'm sure, have already informed Lockman of the situation. May the Lord be with you my friend.
Shalom
John |
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scripture on term prayer changes things |
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Not Specified |
LovemyLord7 |
Tue 02/17/09, 8:17am |
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When we hear the term prayer changes things, what scripture is refered to. |
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scripture on term prayer changes things |
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James 5:16 |
LovemyLord7 |
Tue 02/17/09, 8:17am |
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When we hear the term prayer changes things, what scripture is refered to. |
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scripture on term prayer changes things |
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James 5:16 |
DocTrinsograce |
Tue 02/17/09, 10:13am |
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Dear LovemyLord7,
This phrase does not appear in the Scriptures as such. I seem to recall an old radio program that would conclude, "Remember, God is on the throne, and prayer changes things!" I suspect it is a phrase used to encourage people to devote themselves to this important Christian duty. It has pleased our Lord to design the universe in such as way that all things are sovereignly predetermined, yet so as to incorporate the prayers of His saints. Indeed, without the doctrine of God's sovereignty, prayer would be a pretty pointless activity. The old Puritans used to say, "Duties are ours, events are the Lord's." What a privilege it is, therefore, to render up prayers, through which God will give Himself great glory, and bring blessing upon His own.
In Him, Doc |
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Gods Love and Grace for you. |
Note |
John 3:16 |
stjohn |
Wed 02/18/09, 1:14am |
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Dear Justme...
Thanks for your note.
I understand your sadness. I feel it too. It's very sad that so many come here with a chip on their shoulder. So that when someone try's to instruct them, they think it's being done in an accusatory way, and react negatively to instruction that's only meant for just what it is. But their pride wont allow them see it for just instruction given with the intent to only teach. And given because we care that they learn sound theological truth. They just don't see that it's really not about being right, as so many, sadly, wast so much of their effort on. They quite often seem to care more about winning an argument then learning something.
I try to remember to say a prayer for them.
John |
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this is a qustion ask for a bible study |
Answer |
James 5:14 |
keliy |
Sat 02/21/09, 7:39pm |
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Hi Dale,
Welcome. The question has been up for a while so I hope you don't mind if I take a stab at it.
In the book of James, the inspired writer exhorts: “Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up” (5:14, 15).
The sick are still among us. And virtually no one questions the fact that the church should have elders today, where qualified men can be found. Should elders, then, in connection with their prayers, be anointing the sick with oil?
Though this procedure has not been practiced by churches of Christ in modern times (as a general rule), some are suggesting that it ought to be a part of our ritual. How should this matter be viewed?
First, it ought to be noted that this reference to “anointing with oil” (James 5:14) is extremely abbreviated. Nothing is specifically stated in the context as to the design of the practice.
Second, there are no contextual indications that this anointing with oil had any sort of spiritual basis that would make it universally applicable or perpetually obligatory. If this was to be a requirement for the universal church for all time, it would seem to be a reasonable expectation that some foundation for the practice might have been supplied.
Commentators are sharply divided as to the meaning of the passage. Certainly any view of this text which comes into conflict with other clear biblical information must be rejected.
I actually found this info on the internet, so these are not my words, but to read the article in its entirety, please go to:
christiancourier.com/articles/118-anointing-with-oil-james-5-14
Blessings,
keliy |
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the Power of Prayer |
Note |
Ps 5:1 |
stjohn |
Wed 02/25/09, 7:56am |
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Thanks, Azure...
Thats a thoughtful and lovley poem to start the day with.
It moves me to pray a prayer of greatfullness!
:-)
John |
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forgive consider what he has done |
Answer |
Matt 1:1 |
Val |
Wed 02/25/09, 9:11am |
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Its is called the Lord's prayer. The disciples asked Him how to pray and He say pray in this way. You may read the gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to read about it. Sincerely, Val |
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Can one pray after his/her death? |
Note |
1 John 3:2 |
stjohn |
Fri 02/27/09, 10:38pm |
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Dear bibleman...
Welcome to the forum.
If I may, sir, I'd like to point to what prayer is, and is not. When we pray, we pray to God and to God alone. We do not pray to Abraham or anyone else, but God. He is the only one that can answer prayer. What the rich man was doing was not prayer any more then if I asked you for help for something I though you may be able to help me with. Nor could Abraham have done anything to change the rich man's fate. Only God can do that, and once we die, it's to late to change our fate.
Heb 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
John |
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Can one pray after his/her death? |
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1 John 3:2 |
bibleman12 |
Fri 02/27/09, 10:47pm |
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Hi John,
Thanks for your reply
I disagree... Prayer may be made to God and to men or even to devils. Now it would not be a Christian prayer to anyone other than to the Father God, but still prayer could be made to others. |
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Can one pray after his/her death? |
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1 John 3:2 |
stjohn |
Fri 02/27/09, 11:10pm |
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Dear bibleman...
Sorry, you are technically right of course, but since this is a Christian Bible study, when we talk about prayer here, I think we can rightly assume we are talking about Christian prayer. At least I hope thats what we are talking about. :-)
In the sense you are speaking though, you may be right, though I don't really see that scripture has a definitive answer. hmm, It is an interesting question, though I'm not sure how substantive or efficacious a discussion it would make.
John |
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Can one pray after his/her death? |
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1 John 3:2 |
skccab |
Fri 02/27/09, 11:15pm |
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Shalom John,
This is not prayer for a change of what is already fixed, but it is "prayer" which is what the question was about. Rev. 6:9-11. So, according to that passage, there is definitely prayer-conversation still going on after death...
Cheri |
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Can one pray after his/her death? |
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1 John 3:2 |
bibleman12 |
Fri 02/27/09, 11:32pm |
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Thanks Val,
I agree that this type of prayer would be VERY displeasing to God. But that be as it may it is still prayer prayed by the worshipers of Baal. |
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What would make this allogory? |
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1 John 3:2 |
stjohn |
Sat 02/28/09, 7:11pm |
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Hi bibleman...
First of all, I'd like to point out that I didn't say it was allegory, but only that some interpret it that way. I actually would tend to lean more toward a literal interpretation, but I really don't know for sure, thats just my humble opinion. As far as why it is sometimes interpreted that way (i.e. as allegory)... I don't think I could improve on sister Val's answer so I'll let it be as it is. (Thank you Val)
Just musing a bit here if I may... And to get back to the original question. I would personally be hard pressed (again, just my opinion) to call what is going on with the soul's under the alter and the rich man as literal prayer. For the rich man to call out to Abraham, is, to me at least, just a call from someone, to someone, for help. I would not necessarily call that prayer. If I fell into a ditch, and called out to someone, to tell my brethren to be careful of the ditch; I wouldn't call that a prayer, but just a request for assistance to do something I was not able to do for myself. In the case of the souls under the alter, it would appear, (though it may be literal or allegorical) that they are having a face-to-face conversation. But thats a tough one too, because who's to say if a soul has a face. :-) So I don't think I could call that prayer for sure, though again, I would stress, that I don't know for sure. So my point is, we need to be careful when we make assertions, when we are answering questions. There are many who come here, looking for truth, and with a trusting heart. So, I think, it's better be very careful. We don't want to lead someone to believe something should be taken as doctrine, when we cannot really be sure about it ourselves. Those who are called to teach are held to a higher standard, and I believe we will have to account for every idol word, whether it be spoken or written.
John |
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What would make this allogory? |
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1 John 3:2 |
Pattycake |
Tue 03/3/09, 12:12pm |
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Azure,
I admire the depth of your research and hunger for learning about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and for studying His word.
Watchman Nee was a godly man who lived in a different time and place from what we now live. It is unfortunate that Christianity has become so divisive sometimes that we forget the true mission of winning others.
There are some Questions that remain unanswered about scripture that we won't understand until we get to heaven and that’s why I keep Proverbs 26:4-5 in the back of my mind to choose carefully which arguments, foolish or not, to get in to because they can be simple distractions. 2 Tim 2:23 says the same. If you notice PR 26:5 says there are times to get into these discussions, and you have done well in your refutation.
As a young Bible college student 30 years ago, I found the Normal Christian Life and Nee's books on Prayer invaluable. Now, as a student and a teacher of all ages, I have found the writers that I glean the most from are those who use Scripture to illustrate Scripture. They will find a Biblical example to illustrate another verse. Those who are trained to recognize counterfeit money do NOT study counterfeit money. They study real money. They learn it so well that a counterfeit is easily recognized immediately.
That’s why it is imperative to make sure you study the BIBLE primarily. Then carefully choose the resources thereafter. The cults will stand out obviously once you have studied the TRUTH of God’s Word. The Holy Spirit and God’s Word will lead you into all Truth.
Choose an easy to read translation of Scripture, and read it until God says something to you individually.
A good concordance is necessary to understand to original meanings of words in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.
A good Bible dictionary helps and so does a Manners and customs of the Bible Book.
Oswald Chambers wrote what has always become a favorite devotional with My Utmost for His Highest.
Brother Lawrence in The Practice of the Presence of God, speaks of walking in the Holy Spirit with God.
Your God is too Small by J B Phillips is great for realizing how huge our God is.
Twelve Extraordinary Women by John MacArthur describes twelve women Jesus chose to use for His honor and glory. (Also Twelve Ordinary Men and Gospel According to Jesus)
Vary the authors you read and always compare their authenticity with that of scriptural validity and accuracy. That includes secular and biblical.
We can never take man’s word at face value even though we would like to. Rely on the Holy Spirit inside you, and the Bible before you to guide you.
Here in the US we have a great evangelist who has grown old and is adored world-wide. There is no one in the US to take his place save his son: Billy and Franklin Graham. Many believe there are some in Asian countries ready to step up and fill in that void. You are blessed to part of an evangelistic explosion not seen in our country. It may be a brief window to get materials not ever available to you before.
Grace to You with John MacArthur offers all lessons via MP3 downloads free of charge. (gty.org)
My goal was to encourage you and your studies. God rewards the diligent student. The seeker always finds the answer.
Love and blessings, my sister, Angela
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did Jabez have sicle cell |
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1 Chr 4:9 |
keliy |
Sat 03/7/09, 8:53am |
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Hello Sista
Sorry, I am having difficulty making a connection between what the Bible says and the pain of Jabez. There is no disease mentioned in the life of Jabez that I know of. The pain mentioned is due to his mother's labor pains which are understood to be beyond normal. The pain felt by Jabez was actually removed by God as an answer to the prayer of Jabez. See the following passage,
Jabez was more honorable than his brothers, and his mother named him Jabez saying, "Because I bore him with pain."
Now Jabez called on the God of Israel, saying, "Oh that You would bless me indeed and enlarge my border, and that Your hand might be with me, and that You would keep me from harm that it may not pain me!" And God granted him what he requested. (1Ch 4:9-10)
Forgive me for not knowing more about the sickle cell, but I understand it to be caused by genetic mutations. These mutations develop over time, so I would assume that this blood-borne characteristic was not in existence during Jabez's time. Again, this is only my assumption, there may be references to disease in the Old testament that could be translated as sickle cell but I am unaware of any.
One symptom of sickle cell is a shortened life span, and this is not mentioned in Jabez.
Lord Bless,
keliy |
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can Satan plant thoughts into our minds? |
Answer |
1 Pet 5:8 |
stjohn |
Wed 03/11/09, 10:42pm |
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Hi heseeshisson,
Satin is the father of lies, and he can influence us with his lies. But our thoughts are still our own -not his- and also he is not omnipresent, he can only be in one place at a time, so there is little chance that he is personally attacking an individual. He does have many minions however, who are more that willing to promulgate his lies, and spread his evil plans to influence us with his deception. So we must realize that there are evil forces around us.
So remember to, "Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints," Eph 6:11-18
I pray this helps you.
God bless
John |
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Banker are sinner or not |
Answer |
Deut 23:20 |
Val |
Wed 03/25/09, 6:31am |
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Notice in the next verse He says to charge interest to the foreigner. We must remember that Deuteronomy was written by Moses instructing him and the people of God, Israel, how to treat one another. They had just come out of Egypt and were going into the promised land. This law was for a specific nation at a particular time in history. In it we see the holiness of God and how he wants us to treat one another. To apply that to a modern situation I would personally consider the fair market value, what other banks are charging and through prayer and further study of God's word. You must be guided by the Holy Spirit within you as to what would be fair. A good rule of thumb is do unto others as you would have them do unto you. We live in a different time period under different government so we obey our government. Charging interest is a necessary component of business. Striking a balance I believe is key. You are in essence looking out for the good of both the customer and at the same time the business. Deut 23:20 "You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess. Hope this helps, Sincerely, Val |
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